Township Council Minutes
July 26 , 2005
The Regular Public Meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council was called to Order at 8:50 pm by Council President Greenbaum with the Pledge of Allegiance.
MOMENT OF REFLECTION for all those who have and continue to protect our freedoms.
President Greenbaum: At this point we are going to be moving into, I call the Township Council public meeting of July 26th 2005 to order I will dispense with the Pledge of Allegiance and the Moment of Reflection. Did we do the Moment of Reflection already?
Mrs. Lashway: Yes.
President Greenbaum: I would just remind everyone that we do the Moment of Reflection to honor those that protect our freedoms who have given their life and liberty and have been injured and in doing so, we take it very seriously up here, in terms of our respect to those individuals who have
throughout time protected our liberty. At this point Lisa, could you please re-read the Open Public Meetings Act announcement.
OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT ANNOUNCEMENT
According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate notice of this meeting has been given to the Mount Olive Chronicle. Notice has been posted at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mount Olive Township, New Jersey and notices were sent to those requesting the same.
ROLL CALL Present: Mr. Buell, Mrs. Labow, Mr. Mund,
Mr.Guenther, Mr. Rattner, Mr. Perkins,
Also Present: Mayor De La Roche; Bob Casey, Acting Business Administrator; Sherry Jenkins, CFO; John Dorsey, Township Attorney; Lisa Lashway, Township Clerk
Public Hearing – Morris County Open Space and Farmland Preservation Trust Fund
• Mandelbaum, Block 800 Lot 6
• Blue Atlas Nursery, Block 4500 Lot 8
President Greenbaum: At this point we are going to have a public hearing, with respect to the Morris County Open Space and Farmland Preservation Trust Fund. With respect of Mandelbaum, Block 800 Lot 6 and Blue Atlas Nursery, Block 4500 Lot 8. I will open it up to the public with respect to Mandelbaum, Block 800 Lot 6 at the present time. Is there anyone who wishes to be heard on this?
Mrs. Murphy, do you wish to be heard?
Mrs. Murphy: Just briefly, I will be filing the applications later, at the end of this week. Once again the Open Space Committee has worked very hard to go through some selections of property and work with willing land owners, so hopefully we will be successful in our grant applications and acquisition.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, is there anyone else who wishes to be heard on this Public Hearing Session with respect to Mandelbaum, Block 800 Lot 6? If not, I close it to the public. I now open it to the public with respect to Blue Atlas Nursery, Block 4500 Lot 8. Is there anyone who wishes to be heard? Seeing none, I close it to the public. That concludes the public hearing with respect to those two properties.
• Laura Szwak
• Jane Israel
President Greenbaum: Let the record reflect that during the Council conference meeting of July 26, 2005, a presentation and proclamation was awarded by the Council and by the Mayor with respect to services rendered to the Township by both Laura Szwak and Jane Israel, both of whom have worked tirelessly to the benefit of the Township.
Questions on Bill List
President Greenbaum: At this point is there any question with respect to the Bill List? Mr. Rattner.
Mr. Rattner: Yes, the bill for Flanagan’s Incorporated we get this check for #1189 and #1184 Turkey Brook Phase three. In the back, up in the voucher package the letter that we got from the engineer which said everything, all the work has been done, said that before the issuance of the payment the governing body must formally approve the change order. The change orders have not been done at this point. I checked the Agenda tonight, and I did not see a change order on there. So with that even though it has been approved, by the normal people who approve all the vouchers; based on the letter from Schoor DePalma I would ask that it be removed until we get the change order.
President Greenbaum: Sherry is that accurate, in terms of change orders as you know, Mr. Casey?
Mr. Casey: Yes, that is accurate. The change order in question is a deduct I believe of $1,800.00 which I think Council saw. It should have been on tonight’s Agenda. It is not so I do not take exception at all to Mr. Ratter’s comments.
Mr. Dorsey: But I did a resolution to approve both of the change orders.
Mr. Casey: Yes, but it came in too late to be on the Agenda. So…
President Greenbaum: We will carry it then to the following meeting. That will be removed from the Bill List. Are there any other comments or questions with respect to the Bill List that the administration can review during the course of the meeting and get answers to? Seeing none, we will move on with the Agenda. At this point I will ask for approval of the June 28, 2005 Minutes and the July 12th 2005 Closed Session, Mr. Buell.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
June 28, 2005 Present: All
July 12, 2005 cs Present: All
Mr. Buell: Thank you, I move the approval of the June 28th 2005 Regular Meeting and the July 12th 2005, Closed Session.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Greenbaum: It has been moved and seconded, any comment, questions or deletions? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL Passed Unanimously
LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS / ORGANIZATIONS
1. Letter received July 15, 2005, from John O. Bennett regarding Group against Smoking Pollution.
2. Letter received July 19, 2005, from Joseph and Diann Brochu regarding a request to vacate a paper road. (High Street).
3. Letter received July 21, 2005, from Jane Israel resigning from the Library Board.
4. Letter received July 22, 2005, from DMJM Harris regarding Pipe and Wire License Agreement between Norfolk Southern Railway Company and Township of Mount Olive.
5. Letter received July 22, 2005, from St Jude Thaddeus Church regarding “Crop Walk.”
RESOLUTIONS, ORDINANCES, CORRESPONDENCE FROM OTHER TOWNS
6. Resolution received July 11, 2005, from the Township of Chester regarding the Girl Scout Gold Award honoring Jessica Obiedzinski.
7. Resolution received July 20, 2005, from the Township of Parsippany-Troy Hills regarding “Goose and the Gander.”
8. Two Ordinances received July 22, 2005, from Washington Township regarding Land Use.
DOT / DEP / LOI
9. Letter received July 7, 2005, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding Lozier Estates, LLC - Notice of Violation – 80 Lozier Road.
10. Letter received July 7, 2005, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding Ralph & Christina Fucci, Notice of Violation – 35 Stonehouse Road.
11. Letter received July 7, 2005, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding Freshwater Wetlands Protection Act - Block 3305; Lot , Applicant: Michelle Laffler, 17 Mount Olive Road, Budd Lake.
12. Letter received July 11, 2005, from EcolSciences, Inc. regarding Applications for Highlands Resource Area Determinations Block 402, Lot 2 and 5 (204 and 310 Waterloo Valley Road) Givaudan Fragrances Corp.
13. Letter received July 14, 2005, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection to AERC.com, Inc. regarding Universal Waste Handler Notification, Block 38, Lot 5A (3 Goldmine Road).
14. Letter received July 18, 2005, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding One year extension of time – Treatment Works Approval Morris Chase Block 79, Lot 4400 (Goldmine Road).
15. Letter received July 18, 2005, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding Notice of Public Hearing for the proposed Addenda to the FFY2005 Priority System, Intended Use Plan and Project Priority List and the Proposed FFY2006 Priority System Document for Clean Water Financing.
16. Letter received July 20, 2005, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding the New Jersey Environmental Infrastructure Financing Program.
17. Letter received July 22, 2005, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding Deerfield Estates, Stream Encroachment Emergency Permit, Individual Freshwater Wetlands Emergency Permit Applicant: Rezamir Estates, Inc. Block 7000, Lot 64 (20 Shop Lane, Budd Lake)
LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITIES
18. E-mail received July 8, 2005, from New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Time of Decision and Education for Planning and Zoning Board Members.
19. Letter received July 11, 2005, from New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Mayor’s Summit on Preventing Gangs and Youth Violence.
20. E-mail received July 16, 2005, from New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Further Budget Cuts.
21. Local Government Update received July 14, 2005, regarding Illinois Governor Gets Stem Cell Grant.
22. Explanation of Computed Tax Rates from the Morris County Tax Board received July 18, 2005, for Mount Olive Township.
23. E-mail received July 18, 2005, from the Morris County Chamber of Commerce regarding Meganet “Joint Business Card Exchange Event.”
24. Notice of Public Hearings received July 21, 2005, from Elizabeth Gas Company
regarding various petitions
25. Letter received July 22, 2005, from New Jersey Natural Gas regarding Notice of Filing and Public Hearing.
LETTERS FROM LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES
26. Letter received July 8, 2005, from Congressman Rodney Frelinghuysen regarding “Committee on the Budget,” Border Security and Immigration Enforcement and Reform, and Accomplishments in the 109th Congress.
27. E-mail received July 15, 2005, from Congressman Frelinghuysen regarding Support of Military Installations, Reviews Military Operations at Guantanamo Bay, and Deficit Reduction Report.
ORDINANCES FOR PUBLIC HEARING
President Greenbaum: Next Items for discussion are Correspondence. There are 27 pieces of Correspondence. Does any one wish to discuss any particular piece of correspondence? Seeing no one… just kidding, Mr.Guenther.
Mr. Guenther: Item number two, letter from Joseph and Dianne Brochu regarding vacating paper road on High Street. I seem to remember this having come up, I think before I was on the Council I was on the Board of Adjustment, but there was a problem with doing this… It was requested at that time and it couldn’t be done, because someone was going to be landlocked back there.
Mr. Casey: Yes, we are looking at that, there is an accompanying statement from the property owner who may be landlocked, indicating he had no exception to it, but we are looking at that also from the drainage standpoint. There is a property which theoretically has access to an alternate way. I want to check on that because…
Mr. Guenther: Okay, I just wanted to make sure.
President Greenbaum: Anyone one else have any comments, or questions, on any particular piece of Correspondence? Seeing none, we will move on to the next item for discussion which are Ordinances for Public Hearing. The first Ordinance for public hearing is #22-2005 entitled:
Ord. #22-2005 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Lease Agreement Between the Township of Mount Olive and the Mount Olive Child Care and Learning Center, Inc.
President Greenbaum: At this point in time, I would open it up to the public, anyone who wishes to discuss this particular Ordinance. Yes, sir. Please state your name and address for the record.
Mr Cowden: Good evening, my name is Brian Cowden. I live at 11 Kevin Drive here in Flanders. I am an eight year resident of Mount Olive Township. I just wanted to speak briefly about Mount Olive Child Care Center. My wife and I have a five year old daughter who attends the facility. It is an excellent facility, we did extensive research when my wife was first pregnant with our daughter knowing that both of us worked and needed to find a child care center. If you travel up and down Route 206, you would think there is certainly no need to carry on this facility. There are certainly new facilities being built constantly, but when you get in there, if you’re a parent like I am, and you’re looking at the facility you come to find the facilities that stand out. Mount Olive Child Care Center is a NAEYC approved, if I have that correct? It is in the top ten percentile of accredited day care centers. So enough about its accreditation, it serves a strong service to this community. I understand that quite a few parents unlike myself, who are financially strapped receive some aid and Gale Reuther. The Director can talk more about that. I did want to mention that before we enrolled our daughter in this day care center, she was enrolled in a center in Roxbury Township also with the same accreditations. That was in a Temple. The Temple made some business decisions to close that facility after 13 years. It was a great hardship to the children and to the parents. I know from my wife and I, we, had to take days off from work to research day care centers, find new centers, and we were fortunate that we found Mount Olive Child Care Center. We’re also parents whose daughter was starting Kindergarten this year and that will be a half day program and we are looking for a place that provides after care presumably up through the eighth grade and Mount Olive Child Care Center provides that service. So I would just like you to consider that
Mr. Cowden (cont’d): when you make your decision, I think the community would be best served by allowing the center to lease the old Library.
President Greenbaum: Is there anyone else from the public who wishes to be heard on this subject? Please state your name and address for the record.
Heather Adams: Hi my name is Heather Adams. I live at 20 Rolling Hills Drive in Budd Lake. Not to repeat what Brian just said, but I am a mother and going to look for a day care center is heart breaking at times, and I looked at a lot of the main centers that you see, and they have the bells and whistles and they have the video cameras. I walked into Gail’s Center and never looked back. I have two children there. A five year old son and a three year old daughter. They have grown. They have learned. They have just been wonderful. I just can’t even imagine having to find another center. So giving the center the top notch facility that the library will just add to the already top notch center that this is. So, thank you again for giving them the consideration for the lease agreement.
Mr. Greenbaum: Thank you very much, Yes sir, Judy I will get you next. You have to wait till you get up to the podium please.
Kamal Brown: My name is Kamal Brown, I live at 1 Kern Drive, Flanders. I also have children that attend the Mount Olive Child Care Center, I am a fireman in Newark and when I first moved up here, there were a couple other firemen that live in the town. One of the reasons I kind of looked into this area, and both of the firemen have had their kids go through the High School, and their kids also attended the Mount Olive Child Care Center, and that was one of the main reasons that I really looked into the Center verses, sending my kids to all these other schools and child care systems up and down 206 like she said in the area. I have a three year old, a four year old, and a year and half old. All three are in the school. They love it, I can’t begin tell you how much my wife and I appreciate the love and the staff and what they do to make the kids feel at home there at the child care center. I would just like to have the Council take into consideration what the Library would mean to a lot of the kids in the area. Like I said I have three small kids so they are going to spend a long time, a lot of time in the High School and the Middle School, and in the School system in Mount Olive, Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, Judy, please again state your name and address for the record.
Judy Hirky: Judy Hirky, Lozier, Road Budd Lake. I do want to tell you a little bit about my feeling about the Child Care Center. You know I was in there since it was Sand Shore, and when they started the after school program, my office is right across from the cafeteria and let me tell you I was very suspicious. Kids are very special to me and I watched them like a hawk and the more I watched, the more I liked what I saw. I can only say that I wish, when my child was young and had to go to child care, I wish there had been a place like that for her, because I don’t think there is another place like it, and I highly recommend it. Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, is there anyone else from the public who wishes to be heard on this particular Ordinance? Seeing none, I close it to the public. At this point I would ask Mrs. Labow to move Ordinance #22-2005.
Mrs. Labow: With great pleasure and honor I would like to move Ordinance #22-2005 for adoption and final passage.
Mr. Guenther: Second
President Greenbaum: It has been moved and seconded. Let the record reflect that Mr. Rattner has stepped down off the dais with respect to discussion on this item. Is there anyone who wishes to discuss any particular issue with respect to Ordinance #22-2005 Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: I hereby declare Ordinance #22-2005 as passed on second reading and hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption as required by law.
President Greenbaum: Congratulations.
Mrs. Labow: Congratulations.
Mr. Perkins: Steve was going to vote no.
Mr. Rattner: I guess it went through?
Mr. Perkins: Something about you funding it for the first five years.
President Greenbaum: The next item for discussion is Ordinance #24-2005 entitled:
Ord. #24-2005 An Ordinance to Amend and Supplement Chapter 176 Entitled
“ Parks” of the Code of the Township of Mount Olive
President Greenbaum: At this point and time I would open up to the public discussion on Ordinance #24-2005 Is there anyone who wishes to be heard? Seeing none, I close it to the public. I would ask Mr. Mund to please move Ordinance #24-2005
Mr. Mund: I move for adoption and final passage of Ordinance #24-2005
Mr. Perkins: Second
President Greenbaum: It has been moved and seconded, any discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Ordinance #24-2005 is passed on second reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy of same to the Mayor and publish a notice of adoption as required by law. Next item for public discussion is Ord. #25-2005 entitled:
Ord. #25-2005 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive to Acquire an Interest
in Certain Lands Within the Township of Mount Olive and
Known as a Portion of Lot 9 in Block 5401 on the Official Tax map
Of the Township of Mount Olive from the Township of Mount
Olive Board of Education.
President Greenbaum: Is there any one who wishes to be heard on this particular Ordinance? Seeing none, I close it to the public and I would ask Mr. Guenther to please move Ordinance #25-2005 for adoption.
Mr. Guenther: For the record I want to state you stated 4501 it is 5401 for the Lot.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, do you want me to have to point out on the sheet where you have to read from Bernie?
Mr. Guenther: I was so focused on that, you know.
President Greenbaum: I know, it is one thing at a time.
Mr. Guenther: I move to adopt final passage… I wanted to read the first one, that long paragraph, I love reading that. I move for adoption and final passage of Ordinance #25-2005.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded any discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbam: I hereby declare Ordinance #25-2005 is passed on second reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy of same to the Mayor and publish a notice of adoption as required by law.
ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING – (2nd reading August 23, 2005)
Ord. #29-2005 An Ordinance to Amend and Supplement an Ordinance Entitled “Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive Implementing the Emergency Services Volunteer Length of Service Award Program” (Ordinance #32-99).
President Greenbaum: Mr. Guenther, would you like to read that long passage?
Mr. Guenther: Alright, I move that Ordinance #29-2005 be introduced by title and passed on first reading, that a meeting be held on August 23rd 2005 at 7:30 pm at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders Drakestown Road, Mount Olive, New Jersey for public hearing, consideration of second reading, and passage of said Ordinance, and the Clerk be directed to publish, post, and make available said Ordinance in accordance with the requirements of law.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Greenbaum: It has been moved and seconded, any discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Next Item for discussion for First Reading is Ord. #30-2005 entitled:
Ord. #30-2005 Bond Ordinance Amending Bond Ordinance Numbered #11-2001, as Supplemented by #6-2002, of the Township of Mount Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey Finally Adopted May 8, 2001, as Supplemented March 12, 2002, in Order to Provide for the Demolition of the Old Municipal Building.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Rattner.
Mr. Rattner: He asked me to do this one. He knows how tough it is for me to spend money.
President Greenbaum: No, I asked you to do this because your name is listed next to it.
Mr. Rattner: Yeah! Well, who put it there? I move that Ordinance #30-2005 be introduced by title and be passed on first reading and that a meeting be held on August 23rd 2005 7:30 pm at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders Drakestown Road, Mount Olive, New Jersey for public hearing and consideration for second reading and passage of said Ordinance and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy of same to the Mayor and publish a copy of the notice as required by law.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Greenbaum: It has been moved and seconded, any discussion? Mrs. Labow then Mr. Rattner.
Mrs. Labow: I just have a question for Mrs. Jenkins, this is not an additional bond that we are taking out. This is a bond we already have, and we are just re-appropriating it in another direction. So it is not a new bond.
Mr. Jenkins: Yes, we are re-appropriating it, we are not authorizing any new…
Mrs. Labow: Debt.
Mrs. Jenkins: Yes, Debt.
Mrs. Labow: Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Rattner.
Mr. Rattner: I have come to the realization that the old Municipal Building has to come down, so that’s not a question. The real issue is it actually ties in with what Mrs. Labow has said. This is still additional money that we are spending, and I thought we were going to look around for all the little bits of money that were left over from other Bonds. I know that is a lot simpler to take it from one. It is just that this is coming out of the Bond for the Library, and basically what’s happened is I guess we’re $3 – 400,000.00 under budget for the Library. Probably one of the first projects I can remember in a long time that came in under budget but now we are looking at spending the money anyway. Just because, we already appropriated the money we didn’t spend it. So instead of giving it back to the Taxpayers we are finding a way of spending it.
Mr. Rattner (cont’d): I am going to go with this one, because we have to do something with the building and it isn’t going to get any better, and I don’t want to wait till it falls down under it’s own weight and maybe hurt somebody, but this is still new money that we are spending. Not any money that we just voted on, and we know what’s happening with taxes our ratables and everything else goes down. Every penny, you put enough pennies together and you end up with a dollar. Put a few dollars together and before you know it you’re talking real money, and that is the view I have. Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, anyone else? Mr. Perkins.
Mr. Perkins: Thank you Mr. President, I to, am distressed over the fact that the building was left to its own, and left to deteriorate over numerous years. I don’t want to spend any money on it either, razing the building is probably the best thing for the taxpayers, it’s going to afford us, hopefully a much better place, and a safer place for the people in Mount Olive to go on these hot days like we’ve experienced this year. I look forward to getting this done as quickly as possible and again with much chagrin, I am going to vote yes for it, but I’m not real fond of spending the money for it. It never should have happened in the first place. Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Anyone else? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Next item for discussion is Ordinance #31-2005 entitled:
Ord. #31-2005 Bond Ordinance Providing for Various Water Utility Improvements In and By the Township of Mount Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey, Appropriating $666,000 Therefor and Authorizing the Issuance of $632,700 Bonds or Notes of the Township to Finance Part of the Cost Thereof.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Perkins.
Mr. Perkins: Thank you Mr. President, I move that Ordinance #31-2005 be introduced by title and passed on first reading, and that a Meeting be held on August 23rd 2005, at 7:30 pm at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders Drakestown Road, Mount Olive, New Jersey for public hearing, consideration of second reading and passage of said Ordinance, and that the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available said Ordinance in accordance with the requirements of law.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mr. Guenther: Second.
President Greenbaum: It has been moved and seconded, any discussion? Mr. Buell.
Mr. Buell: Is this the Ordinance we wanted to defeat?
President Greenbaum: No, this is the new Ordinance that we want to pass.
Mr. Buell: Okay.
President Greenbaum: The Ordinance that which we wanted to defeat is the one we already had first reading on, but didn’t know about the lead based paint. Is that correct?
Mr. Casey: Yes, Sir.
President Greenbaum: Any other questions? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously, with the exception, Mrs. Labow said No.
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS AGENDA:
Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are considered to be routine and non-controversial by the Township Council and will be approved by one motion (one vote). There will be no separate discussion or debate on each of these resolutions except for the possibility of brief clarifying statements that may be offered. If one or more Council member requests, any individual
resolution on the Consent Agenda may be removed from the Consent Agenda List and acted on separately.
1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Appointing Tim Quinn as the Principal Public Works Manager for the Township.
2. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Extending the Grace Period for Payment of the August 2005 Quarterly Tax Bills.
3. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Cancel Taxes on Block 3201, Lot 68 (Forest Road).
4. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Cancel Taxes on Block 5401, Lot 24 (201 Route 206).
5. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Cancel Taxes on Block 1201, Lot 9 (41 Crease Road).
6. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Cancel Taxes on Block 4500, Lot 34 (110 Route 206).
7. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Cancel Taxes on Block 8700, Lot 32 (20 John Street)
8. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Cancel Taxes on Block 8500, Lot 41 (21-1 John Street).
9. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of
Municipal Liens Against Properties that have been Deleted from the Assessor’s Tax List.
10. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Cancel Taxes on Block 3700, Lot 20 and Block 3700, Lot 42.01 (4 Spring Street)
11. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Cancel Taxes on Block 5300, Lot 8 (222 Route 206) and 26Q Farm.
12. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Cancel Taxes on Block 7600, Lot 114 (173 Flanders-Drakestown Road).
13. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Cancel Taxes on Block 1000, Lot 6 (173 Smithtown Road).
14. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Cancel Taxes on Block 8800, Lot 36 A.K.A. 24 Mine Hill Road.
15. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of Taxes on Block 7610, Lot 4 (55 Vista Drive).
16. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Contract with Robert Cooper to Appraise Block 800 Lot 6.
17. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Contract with Mathew Krauser to Appraise Block 800 Lot 6.
18. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Contract with Robert Cooper for Appraising Block 4500 Lot 8.
19. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Contract with Mathew Krauser to Appraise Block 4500 Lot 8.
20. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Contract with Robert Cooper to Appraise Block 800 Lot 6.
21. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Authorize the Submission of an Application to the Morris County Open Space and Farmland Trust.
22. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Contract with Robert Cooper to Appraise Block 800 Lot 6. REMOVE – Duplicate of #20.
23. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive, Morris County Authorizing a Professional Service Contract with Tom Hitchins, Architect.
24. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive RE: Jessica Obiedzinski, Girl Scout Gold Award Support of ACR-166 and ACR-169.
25. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive, Morris County, Authorizing the Release of Performance Guarantees Posted by K. Hovnanian in Connection with the Development of Millbrook Estates.
26. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Complying with the Promulgation of the Local Finance Board of the State of New Jersey with Regard to the 2004 Annual Audit.(revised)
27. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive, Morris County Authorizing Division of Lot 9, Block 5401 Without Subdivision Approval.
President Greenbaum: Next items for discussions are the Resolutions. Resolutions on the Consent Agenda list are to be considered routine and non controversial by the Township Council and will be approved by one motion, one vote. Is there anyone who wishes to have any particular resolution removed and placed on the Non-Consent? Mr. Guenther.
Mr. Guenther: Number 24
President Greenbaum: Number 24, any others?
Mrs. Labow: I am trying to find out what number it is?
Mr. Mund: The Girl Scouts?
Mrs. Labow: Yes.
Mr. Mund: That is the one I just did.
Mrs. Labow: Oh, did you? Okay, good.
President Greenbaum: Okay number 22 is being removed because a duplicate of 20. So, are we done as far as in terms of removing?
Mr. Guenther: Twenty-two is being removed?
President Greenbaum: Yes, 22 is the same as 20 on the Agenda, do you see?
Mr. Guenther: Yes.
President Greenbaum: So we are going to be moving 1 thru 21 and 23, 25 through 27 is the Consent Resolutions may I have a motion to move?
Mr. Mund: So, Moved.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Greenbaum: It’s alright, doesn’t matter, it has been moved by Mr. Mund and Seconded by Mr. Perkins. At this point in time I would open it up to the public for anyone who wishes to discuss any item on the Consent Resolutions Agenda, as it has been moved. Seeing none, I close it to the public. Is there anyone from Council who wishes to give a brief clarifying statement as to any of the Consent Resolutions? Seeing none. Roll Call.
PUBLIC PORTION ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
RESOLUTIONS NON CONSENT
24. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive RE: Jessica Obiedzinski, Girl Scout Gold Award Support of ACR-166 and ACR-169.
President Greenbaum: That moves us to the Non-Consent Resolutions Agenda. Mr. Guenther, can you please move #24
Mr. Guenther: I hereby move Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Re: Jessica Obiedzinski, Girl Scout Gold Award Support of #ACR-166 and ACR-169.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
PUBLIC PORTION ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
President Greenbaum: It has been moved and seconded, is there anyone from the public who wishes to discuss any item with respect to Non-Consent Resolution #24 as it has been moved? Seeing none I close it to the public. Mr. Guenther you asked that this be removed
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
Mr. Guenther: I just wanted to make a note here in public that as a veteran I really appreciate the effort this young girl is making.
President Greenbaum: Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: I also, wanted to just put it on public record that I thought it was excellent that she sent this request to us, for us to put on our Agenda and she does have a deadline of July 30th if we can make sure that gets out there? Thank you very much Lisa.
President Greenbaum: Thank you any other comments? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
1. Approval of Raffle Application #2093 for HSA St. Michaels.
President Greenbaum: Next Item for discussion are Motions. Mrs. Labow, could you please move the Raffle Applications?
Mrs. Labow: I move for approval of Raffle Application #2093 for HSA St. Michaels.
Mr. Guenther: Second.
President Greenbaum: It has been moved and seconded, any discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Mr. Mund could you please move the Bill List? With the exception of the……….
2. Bill List.
Mr. Mund: I move the Bill List, accept #1184 check
Mr. Dorsey: And #1189
Mr. Mund: And #1189 also? I move for the approval of the Bill List less check #1184 and #1189.
Mr. Guenther: Second.
President Greenbaum: Moved and seconded any discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Greenbaum: Mr. Casey, are there any additional Administrative matters?
Mr. Casey: No, Sir.
• Update on Handicapped Parking @ Library
President Greenbaum: Update on Handicapped Parking at the Library. Is there any further movement on that? Colleen do you have do you have something?
Mrs. Labow: Well, they brought it up at the last Library Board Meeting, which I was going to bring up at my Library report. I will bring it up now since it’s on this section, they…the... What is it? Clearwater? Goodman Clearwater, their engineer for the Library project, could not draw the design for this, because they were told by the architect that they can no longer do any work with the Library at this time until some issues were resolved. Ms. Hilbert contacted a gentleman locally in town who came and decided they didn’t need four, they only needed two now, and it is to be on the oval shape to the left hand side. The Library Board of Directors needs to come to Council; it’s going to cost $2,200.00 to draw up these plans. They cancelled their August, meeting so even if he does come up with the plans before August, it won’t come before the trustee until September and basically it has been put on the back burner again.
President Greenbaum: Okay, Mr. Casey is that your perception of what is happening?
Mr. Casey: I received no further information other than what, in fact, Colleen has told me is more than I knew before.
President Greenbaum: Judy, have you been over to the Library? Can you tell me what the status is? In terms of your perception of what the handicapped parking…
Judy Hirky: Well, first of all, I cannot go alone, because I cannot park down the bottom and walk up to the top. When I do go, someone has to drive me and I really don’t like that. When I get to the top where there is the drop off point, let me tell you something, the curb cut is, there is no curb cut I am sorry, and the curbing has to be eight inches. Do you know what it’s like, to try? No car can get right close to the curb, and even if it got right next to the curb, I don’t think you could get out of the car and get onto the sidewalk. You need that curb cut. There is none. So you get out of the car, or I get out of the car. I try to get up. It’s not so bad getting up, but let me tell you something when I have to get back into the car and go down that, it is really scary. There is nothing to hold on to. It is a drop off, but it certainly isn’t appropriate for any one who’s handicapped. As far as the parking space? It is down to two now I think?
Mrs. Labow: Yes, instead of four.
Judy Hirky: And it is partially up the driveway. It is a little bit better, great, it is not!
Mrs. Labow: Mr. Greenbaum?
Mr. Greenbaum: Yes.
Mrs. Labow: Also, Mrs. Hirky reminded me when she talked about that curbing by the front door. Mrs. Hilbert informed everyone that evening that there was no need to do curb cut outs right there for the drop off. That is was not necessary, that, that is not supposed to be drop off point, and no one should be dropping anyone off there. Therefore they were not going to do any curb cut outs at the front of the building.
Judy Hirky: But Colleen, a couple of meetings ago they kept talking about how they let the school buses pull up there and discharge children. They keep talking about it as being a drop off point.
Mrs. Labow: Yes! But they…
President Greenbaum: I don’t know why it couldn’t be a drop off point? Or shouldn’t be a drop off point? It doesn’t make any sense to me and never has.
Judy Hirky: You to have a curb cut …..
President Greenbaum: I don’t have any problem with eliminating the entire curb, but if that is what is required? Mr. Guenther.
Mr. Guenther: I remember they made a big deal with this, when they presented it, the beautiful entry way where people can get dropped off, they don’t have to get wet. They were originally going to have an over hanging roof so people don’t get wet. It was meant to be a drop off point. I am sorry!
President Greenbaum: If you look at some of the early literature as well, before they did the change in the design, it has it as a drop off point. They had parking right at the front of the building. Mr. Ratter.
Mr. Rattner: I go, not too often, maybe every couple weeks. There are usually a couple of cars parked there waiting, not just dropping someone off, but waiting for someone to come back, and I will tell you if you have a bigger vehicle it is a little difficult, but it’s not that you just stop and you have to wait a minute while somebody gets in. So they’re using it. It’s a staging point; it’s not just a drop off point. It’s more of a staging point, and sometimes people are there, maybe 10 minutes. I guess people are running in …parents are letting their kids run in doing whatever they have to do and then come back out. Just like they park in front of the A&P. So to say it is not being used as a drop off point? It is being used like that everyday.
Judy Hirky: Well, some people will use it. I’ve had people say to me, “Oh, just park your car and go in and get your books and do whatever you have to do and come out.” I am not going to do that.
Mr. Rattner: You will get a ticket.
Judy Hirky: I am not going to do it!
President Greenbaum: Mr. Smith did you have something you wanted to add to the subject?
Judy Hirky: I want to add, unfortunately, with a lot of people their attitude is, no, I can’t make it to the Library, I am just not going to go.
Mrs. Labow: I have heard that a lot.
Judy Hirky: I have heard it a lot.
President Greenbaum: Well, Judy you know how all of us sitting up here feel. Every single one of us is absolutely committed to doing what is necessary to get the parking as close to the building as possible, to the extent that we have the ability to do that. I am going to ask Mr. Dorsey to do a little bit of research to find out whether or not we as a Township can override decisions with respect to the property. I know
the Library Board will tell us one thing, but I need to know from Mr. Dorsey whether or not we, in fact, have the ability to put in the handicapped parking spots where they belong, which is in the front of the building. I’m going to ask Mr. Dorsey to get us the answer to that question.
Judy Hirky: I appreciate that.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Smith did you have something to add to that? Stay up there, in case you don’t like his responses, you can poke him.
Mr. Smith: She’ll just kick me in the knee cap. Jim Smith, Kenmar Road, Budd Lake. I don’t want to contradict Colleen as far as what was said at the Library Board meeting, but I happened to be there. What it was that the architect said, that the layout on the curb was for the vehicle to pull up to the curbing and the people could step out of the car directly up on the sidewalk. That is why there were no cut outs put in at that point except for the fact, I would have made a comment that night, I didn’t realize that the public portion for the Library Board Meeting was early, so subsequently no input could be put in later, is that when you have curvature on a vehicle, unless you have very good perception, depth perception, you’re not going to get your vehicle on that curve, up and close to the drop off.
Mrs. Labow: It’s impossible, we have tried, and several of us have tried to get our vehicle close to that curbing. It is absolutely impossible, also as a person myself being handicapped parked next to that curbing you cannot put your feet out of that vehicle and then stand up. It is virtually impossible; you were at the previous meeting. We have had at the Library the discussions with the curb cut and that is what she was referring to, that they were not going to do the curb cuts.
President Greenbaum: Mayor did you have something you wanted to add?
Mayor De La Roche: Yes, as I remember it, at the last Library meeting they indicated that they were looking at two handicapped spots on the left side of the entrance. They were looking to the Council to authorize the expenditure of money in order to do the evaluation of it. I don’t know where it went from there, but I believe it was sent over to the Council to look at.
Mrs. Labow: That’s what I just said before.
President Greenbaum: Well, they have their own budget as well, don’t they? Notwithstanding that, Mr. Dorsey I would like to get an answer to the following question, assuming hypothetically that Council were so inclined, to rectify what Council perceives to be a problem with respect to handicapped parking, is Council under State Law…? Does the Council have the ability to actually put in, by our own doing, handicapped parking in the front of the building?
Mr. Dorsey: My initial reaction is yes, because I think the Township owns the property itself and not the Library Board.
Mayor DeLaRoche: Could you speak up Mr. Dorsey? I can’t hear you.
Mr. Dorsey: Well, off the top of my head I think the answer to that question is yes. In the first place, the property is owned by the Township. It is not owned by the Library Board. Essentially all the funding for the Library comes through the Township rather than the Library Board, so I tend to think, subject to checking it further, then indeed you could make such arrangements as you saw fit.
President Greenbaum: I would like to get that, because I believe the Library actually came with a different opinion from their attorney as to who actually controls the grounds. I am not sure that was the wherewithal answer, and I would like to get a legal opinion on that. So if, in fact, we can determine where the handicapped parking should be, then we can move forward under that guise, alright?
Judy Hirky: Thank you all, so much, I would love to be able to go back to the Library.
President Greenbaum: They passed out a flyer the last time they were here. Do you have a copy of that? We can give it to Mr. Dorsey, or if they can contact the Library? It contained all of their …….
Mrs. Lashway: Yes.
President Greenbaum: Thank you.
Mrs. Labow: Mr. Greenbaum?
President Greenbaum: Yes?
Mrs. Labow: I believe that all the Council members are in favor of this. I know at the Library Board meeting last week, when the vote came down to have the plans wrote up, Mayor De La Roche had abstained from the vote and I was just wanted to know his opinion on these parking spots.
President Greenbaum: Do you care to offer an opinion Mayor?
Mayor De La Roche: I’m sorry?
President Greenbaum: Do you care to offer an opinion as to the handicapped parking?
Mayor De La Roche: Well, it’s rather dubious in the fact that I am on both Boards, but at the same time, as far as I know, the Library Board is continuing to look at the issue, and is in the process of developing plans to add two spots. As I just indicated to you, they are looking to Council to get approval to expend funds so that they can do that. So I don’t know if that is a dead issue or not? I also want to point out to the public that it is ADA compliant at this time, and there is a final CO but I don’t think the Mayor De La Roche (cont’d): Library has ever abandoned the idea that they would consider additional handicapped spots, it is a matter of expenditure of funds as I understand it.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Rattner.
Mr. Rattner: I have been up here, and had extended times of mundane and ridiculous subjects; I think the record that we spent, constantly revisiting this probably has to do with what you can put out in the garbage, in the late 80’s early 90’s. This is getting to be, in my thinking, really pathetic. The Township owns the building. It’s not a budget item for the Library, because any capital or any improvements to the grounds is going to be funded by us anyway. So if the public really wants it… I don’t understand what this fight has been, for six or eight months? No matter what happened there would be a change order, whatever on the building no different than a lot of other field change orders. When something doesn’t work and you just do it! So it’s not that they had to take any money out of their operating budget but it has never been a matter of the subject, they came now and said we are putting it here, it is costing
$15,000.00, would you change or would you approve a change order? I don’t think a single one of us would have said anything. I don’t understand, all the bad PR and everything else has been going on for all, this time, for something so simple. If they say do it, we pay for it, there wouldn’t have been a problem to begin with, and that’s the way it has always been. It’s just getting ridiculous we put it on the Agenda so we don’t lose it. We hear the same stories every couple of weeks. We should just go there and have our engineer say where they belong. As long as they do it, tell them this is where we want them to put it, whatever our engineer says of course we make the change order and authorize somebody to do it already.
Mrs. Labow: Mr.Greenbaum?
Mrs. Labow: To answer Mr. Rattner’s question. I found out, it was quite mind boggling why every single month we go to Library Board meeting and we still aren’t getting any answer, and then in reading
in the paper, I forget which paper it was. There was an article, where one of the reporters has called the architect, Kowal… Dennis Kowal, and the one architect Mr. Hicks had said that he was given direct orders from Rita Hilbert, to wait till after the CO. She denied that and that prompted me to ask for that information, and I do have the email where she told them to wait until after they get the CO before they do up the plans for the parking…..So that is where the delay came in.
President Greenbaum: Well, I don’t even want to get into a he said she said situation. I like Mr. Rattner’s suggestion which is to have Gene do it, as long as I get a legal opinion from Mr. Dorsey that we, in fact, have the ability to do that, and then I suggest what we do at the next meeting is, we authorize Schoor De Palma to go and draw up the appropriate change order for the placement of the handicapped parking spots in front of the building. So long as we have the ability to do that under the law. Mr. Guenther.
Mr. Guenther: I just have a question, what the Mayor said that supposedly the Library Board passed it on to the Council. Lisa do you have record of that?
Mrs. Lashway: No.
Mr. Labow: No, they were supposed to send that over. So we don’t have to go with the engineer that they picked out, when Mr. Dorsey checks that out?
Mr. Greenbaum: Yes, Yes?
Mr. Casey: The second issue that John may have to look at is whether, in fact, they close out the existing contract and whether, in fact, they are capable of taking over the building. That is something we have to find out from their architect.
President Greenbaum: That’s fine as well; whether or not we are at the appropriate…I thought the CO was….
Mr. Rattner: I thought the CO did it? They took it. They told us….
Mr. Casey: Well, we may have the CO on it, but that doesn’t necessarily mean, in fact, that the contract is closed.
President Greeabaum: I understand that. I don’t think that makes any difference.
Mr. Rattner: What difference does that make?
President Greenbaum: I don’t think that makes any difference.
Mr. Rattner: We’ll get our own contract.
President Greenbaum: Yes, okay.
Mayor De La Roche: Yes, I know but, I just wanted to point out what Mrs. Labow has confirmed, that the Library Board agrees, and is sending over…I understood they had sent it over? Apparently you didn’t get it? That they were looking for personal approval, not personal approval, but approval from the Council in order to expend funds to put in the additional parking spaces. So I think it is pretty clear that the Library Board is not avoiding it, they are just trying to go according to the law as they understand it and everybody seems to agree that is what has happened.
President Greenbaum: Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: My question to you, Mayor De La Roche, what your opinion was, because, at the Library Meeting you had abstained from voting on that, and I just wanted to know your personal opinion on it.
Mayor De La Roche: I am not too sure that I abstained on what particular issue you’re speaking.
Mrs. Labow: You did!
Mayor De La Roche: Well, that’s one opinion.
President Greenbaum: Well, let’s not get into a back and forth please!
Mayor De La Roche: I have indicated to you, I am in favor, I think I am on record as saying I am in favor of having parking as close as possible outside of the building.
President Greenbaum: Okay, that’s fine. Judy, go ahead. You have to get up to the microphone.
Mr. Rattner: She’s going to hit you with her walker.
President Greenbaum: You know what, it’s just not worth the guilt that I would get down the road.
Mrs. Labow: You would have to give another EDU to her.
Mrs. Hirky: It’s because you can’t resist me. I just want to add one more thing, a couple of things real quick. Number one, I really, really appreciate all the time and energy and feeling that you have devoted to this. Believe me, I appreciate it and love you all for it. Jane Israel made a statement I think it was tonight about they won’t settle for the minimum, remember?
Mrs. Labow: Yes.
Mrs. Hirky: Always striving up here, but all their handicapped ADA standards are minimum, or a smidgen above, that’s okay. What good is a local library if you can’t use it? I thank you all so much, for your help. They are procrastinating, Mayor, they are putting it off; by the time they have another meeting it will be nine months.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, Judy.
Mrs. Hirky: Thank you.
• Update on Archive Storage Trailers
President Greenbaum: Next item up for discussion is an update on the archives storage trailer, Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: I just wanted to ask Mr. Casey I know you had said that they were $20,000 a piece. Did we order them? Did you….
Mr.Casey: We have one, we had Schoor De Palma complete the pier design, lots that the buildings went on. We are out bid. We will open bids in about two weeks. We will be back before the governing body, at your, not next meeting, but the second meeting in August. So we will have a contract on the…August? Whatever date, August 23rd meeting.
Mrs. Labow: Twenty third. And also in regards, with what I know, that all the archives that where in storage at the U Store it place are now at the old Library I understand that we’re going through them. Is there been a lot of things have been destroyed, and had to be thrown away, or what’s the process for that?
Mr. Casey: The material that was in various locations has been relocated in the old Library. Departments have been told to go over there and look through their material, see what can be disposed of under the archive records, and then repackage as necessary the other material so it can be stored properly in the trailer. So a lot of the departments are going over there, now that material is spread out in a fashion that it can be looked at, I am hoping that we will end up with a significant portion of that, capable of being disposed of.
Mrs. Labow: Oh, good. Is there a special procedure that you have to follow, for all of it?
Mr. Casey: Yes, they have to keep records, we have to file a report with the State indicating what’s in the boxes and all sorts of stuff. There is a whole retention schedule you have to comply with.
Mrs. Labow: A lot of work, Thank you.
• Mine Hill Road Interlocal Agreement with Washington Twp.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Mine Hill Road interlocal agreement with Washington Township, Mrs. Labow, you want an update on that?
Mrs. Labow: Yes, I just want an update, Mr. Casey, on how that was going?
Mr. Casey: We have drafted an interlocal agreement for Mine Hill Road, sent it to Diane Galletts at Washington Township and have not received a response from her yet. It’s probably been a month since I sent it there.
Mrs. Labow: Yes, that is why I put it on there, I also want to thank you for your letter, it was very informative and, I just wanted an update to see if she had responded yet?
• Update on Drainage situation Robinson, Drakesdale Road
President Greenbaum: Okay, update on drainage situation, Robinson, Drakesdale Road
Mr. Casey: Mr. Bennett, County Engineer, was on vacation for a couple of weeks. Gene has a meeting with him on site next week to discuss alternates as to whether there is any way of providing relief to the property owners in mid block.
President Greenbaum: Okay, Legal matters, Mr. Dorsey.
Mr. Dorsey: None
Mrs. Lashway: New Business?
President Greenbaum: Oh, I am sorry, New Business
Mrs. Labow: One other thing under Old Business.
President Greenbaum: You can do it under New Business.
Mrs. Labow: No, actually it is Old Business from the last meeting. The Mayor had an opportunity to read the letter that he said he never wrote a letter to the Chronicle, did the letter look familiar now?
President Greenbaum: You know what; we will get back to it. I will put it back on the tickler. Okay.
Mrs. Labow: Next month, thank you.
President Greenbaum: Thank you. Let’s make sure that gets on the next meeting as to the identification of who authorized that being put on the website. Any other New Business? Seeing none, Legal matters, Mr. Dorsey.
Mr. Dorsey: None
President Greenbaum: Council Reports, Library Board Liaison, Mrs. Labow, other than that which you have already given.
Library Board Liaison Report
Mrs. Labow: Yes, I would say I basically……
Recreation Liaison Report
Mr. Mund: No meeting
Board of Health Report
Mr. Guenther: Meeting is next week.
Planning Board Report
Mrs. Labow: As soon as I find my Planning Board Report… here we go. Back up to the Library, there is one good news that I didn’t get a chance to say, talk about before. Thanks to Mr. Perkins, who contacted the gentleman who does all those beautiful signs all over the Township, and he was also able to secure a… what do you call it, a contributor? Which is, Peter King contributed to the cost of the sign. We have a beautiful sign now at the Public Library which I will pass through for everybody, to take a look at and I want to thank Mr. Perkins for his effort in making that come forward.
President Greenbaum: Does it say Read, Learn, Grow on it?
Mrs. Labow: No, it’s very nice, now for the Planning Board.
President Greenbaum: Planning Board,
Mrs. Labow: For the Planning Board. The bad news is there is not another Planning Board meeting until October 20th
Mr Guenther: What? October.
Mr. Perkins: A little slow with the planning level, right now.
Mrs. Labow: We have nothing! We have nothing scheduled. I know!
Mr. Perkins: Thank God, for the Highlands.
Mrs. Labow: Thank God for the Highlands, in one respect we also have no ratables coming in. Our August 11th meeting, and we have nothing scheduled so I guess they will officially cancel them. Next scheduled meeting is October 20.th Chuck Mc Groarty, at our last Planning Board meeting, brought us
information on a COAH handbook. It is your guide book to navigating the Third Round rules and some sample Ordinances which I am going to ask Mrs. Lashway to copy for everybody to review. We didn’t actually discuss it at the last Planning Board meeting, but he wanted to bring it to our attention, and we brought up the issue of the commercial vehicle ordinance again. After about 45 minutes of discussion we ended up sending it back to Subcommittee again. That’s proven to be quite a difficult situation to get through, and that was really basically it. It was a very quick meeting. We had no applicants, even though at the meeting we had no applicants we were just doing approval of Minutes and approval of Resolutions and the fact we don’t have a meeting until October 20.th
President Greenbaum: Board of Adjustment Liaison Report, Mr.Perkins.
Board of Adjustment Liaison Report
Mr. Perkins: Thank you Mr. President, Most of the meeting was general except for Paragon was in there again for the Child Care Center and that was summarily denied, that’s it.
President Greenbaum: Open Space Committee Report, Mr.Guenther.
Open Space Committee Report
Mr.Guenther: No meeting since our last Meeting.
President Greenbaum: Legislative Committee Report, Mr. Mund.
Legislative Committee Report
Mr. Mund : No Report
President Greenbaum: Pride Committee Liaison Report. Mr. Perkins.
Pride Committee Liaison Report
Mr. Perkins: Yes, Thank you Mr. President, that’s business as usual. I think everybody, hopefully, has seen the new billboard up for Turkey Brook. It is almost identical in looks to the Library bill board that was up there, and there’s absolutely nothing political on there, so it met with everyone’s approval. I hope everyone enjoys it and there is no meeting until September.
President Greenbaum: Board of Education Liaison Report, Mr. Mund, Mr.Buell
Mr. Mund: No, Jim is going to give it.
Board of Education Liaison Report
Mr. Buell: They met last night, the good news it that they awarded the bid to Pike Construction Company for $40,500,000.00 and they are having on Thursday the kick off of the High School renovation, I suspect up at the High School. I will find out more about it. They also reorganized last night. Miffy Ruggiero is the Chairman of the Personnel Committee, Mark Werner is Curriculum Instruction, Bruce Bott is Business, Larry McEntee is the Chair of Facilities and Judy Johnson is the Chair of the Policy Committee. They are also going to have a series of Liaison people to Council this year, instead of having one individual assigned. They thanked us very much for the Ordinance that we passed tonight on second reading. They also indicated that there probably was an Ordinance that probably wasn’t necessary but it was a dispute between our Title Company and their Title Company, and they very much thanked us for Mr. Dorsey’s efforts, and Mr. Semrau’s efforts in getting that
Ordinance through, all of that took about ten minutes, we spent then about two hours at the beginning of the meeting on the issue of parking, and the construction activities that relate to the attempt by the School Board or the request of the School Board to have a cut thru, through School House Lane, into the school property itself. I think every resident of School House Lane attended the meeting last night to discuss this issue. Then again it is the issue of, that we are going to have, and I included in your package, I had Lisa send to you a series of emails that the residents of School House Lane have been sending to the School Board, and to Rob and myself over the past week. This is an issue that is probably going to hit every single house, street in that entire area around the High School during this construction period unless some additional plans are made because the pick up of the kids in the afternoon is probably just going to gridlock Corey Road and gridlock every single one of those roads up there in that area in terms of the pick up. If I understand the mathematics of this, at the current time, last year almost 50% of the kids either drove their cars or were transported in kids’ cars, or were dropped off and picked up at the High School. Almost 50% of the kids going to the High School did not ride buses last year. It is going to be a continuing problem. The School Board and Chief Katona, Scott Van Ness are working very closely with the School Board on this issue, but it’s one there is no good solution to this problem. The School Board has secured the use of the Camp that is next to them for some parking. They are trying to get off site parking at the Solar Sun Club, and they are looking for other solutions. So if
Mr. Buell (cont’d): anybody has solutions in the audience or anybody on the Council has any solutions with this problem, please let us know.
President Greenbaum: Well, I am very happy that the School Board is looking at all the different options that may be available, and trying to be pro-active in terms of finding an approach which will least impact the residents who surround the school and the students and parents who have to transport to the school. I am sure that is a work in progress and that there will be many who will be involved ultimately in the process and the final solution and any help that this Council can give towards the planning process, I have already offered and we are, of course, as concerned about the residents in that area as is the School Board and we will have to wait and see what comes out of their planning process. Thank you.
Mrs. Labow: I think that’s a 1,000 students? There is about 2,000 at the school.
Mr. Buell: 1,500
Mrs. Labow: 1,500?
President Greenbaum: I have great confidence in the fact that both Chief Katona and Scott Van Ness are intimately involved in the process and will come up with the best solution to the issue in advance of the problem actually manifesting itself and obviously there maybe changes that have to be made on a going forward basis once the school year and the construction coincide. Lake and Environmental
Issues Committee, Mr. Rattner.
Lake/Environment Issue Committee
Mr. Rattner: None
President Greenbaum: Safety Committee, Mr. Guenther.
Safety Committee Liaison
Mr. Guenther: There was a meeting last week, last week? Yes, last week, mainly the main item of discussion was some; ah…what should I call it? Communications, hurdles that have to be overcome between new dispatchers that they have and the training cycle apparently is long. The Fire Department, logged some complaints about the fact that the communication isn’t as clear as it should be. It came up, I think they came up with a good solution as to how to increase the training and have some contact with the fire people. I think it is just a matter of the dispatchers also do not recognize all the voices of the
different fire people that are involved. It takes awhile from my understanding of it in that meeting. It just takes awhile for those people to get up to speed. It is just one of those things that happen, but both departments are working very seriously on, resolving it.
Finance Committee Report
President Greenbaum: Thank you, Finance Committee Report, Mr. Rattner.
Mr. Rattner: I have none.
President Greenbaum: Economic Development Committee Report, Mr. Rattner
Economic Development Committee Report
Mr. Rattner: We meet this Thursday
President Greenbaum: Alright, at this point I will open it up to the public to anyone who wishes to speak on any particular issue, I would ask you to come up and give your name and address. Does anyone wish to be heard? Seeing none… yes sir. You got it in just before I gaveled you down.
Mr. Rattner: He is quick with that gavel.
Mr. Lata: My name is Walter Lata. I live on 34 Budd Lake Heights Road, Budd Lake. I would like to have permission right now to approach each Council Member and hand them a handout that I made for each one of them. It has to deal with what I have to discuss tonight.
President Greenbaum: That’s fine. Do you have an extra one to give to the Clerk?
Mr. Lata: Tonight I want to bring to the Council’s attention, how I was treated as a Town employee. First I would like to give a little background of myself and my family in the Township. My family has lived and served Mt Olive Township for many years. It starts with my Grandparents. They first came to Budd Lake only for the summers. Then around 1943 they moved here permanently. My Grandfather, Walter Lata got very involved in the Township. He was a special police officer and he was postmaster of the Budd Lake Post Office. He got involved in the Democratic club so much so that if you had no way to go vote he would come and pick you up, take you to vote and back home again and speaking of, picking up, he also had a taxi cab service here in Budd Lake. He was also on The Board of Education for the Mt. Olive School District, and he got to meet and know a lot of people in the town including some of you. Then there is my Uncle Ed Lata Sr. who also served Mt. Olive Township He worked for the Budd Lake Post Office and he also was a special Police Officer in Mt Olive. He owned the Sportsman’s Corner and he too got to know many people in Mt. Olive and my Uncle and Aunt still live in town. Then there is me. I have lived in town for 46 years. I am an exempt Budd Lake Volunteer Fireman and I also help out on the Budd Lake First Aid Squad. I worked for Mt. Olive Township up until this past December. I worked there for 17 years, and I was fired for no good reason. I was never given a verbal warning or any written warning. The other employee who was involved in the verbal argument that I had, had nothing done to him and he is the one who started the verbal abuse. I tried to get my job back but, at first they said that all but one coworker was fearful of their safety and did not want me back in the Road Department. Then the so called coworkers that feared for their safety would come up to me and start talking to me in town. So if they were so afraid then why do they come up and talk to me and if I was a big threat to their safety then why in 17 years hasn’t something like this happened before? Well here is what I think is the reason for my termination. It started 4 years ago when I told my Foreman, Tim Quinn, I would like to be Foreman some day. At that time Tim was Foreman. I had applied for the Foreman and the Supervisor’s position when Ray Kemmerer and Tim were made Supervisor and Foreman, respectively. So obviously, I did not get it then, but I knew that Ray would be retiring and I could try again so I made it very obvious that I wanted to move up and I was led to believe that I would get the Foreman’s position. For example, when I thought Kevin Miele was going to get the Foreman’s spot, Tim told me don’t be intimidated by Kevin. Then, when I had an interview with Mark Di Gennaro, Ray Kemmerer, Tim and myself, during that interview Tim told Mark if I ever needed anyone to be in charge it would be Walt. Then Ray retired and I applied for the supervisor’s job and it was given to Tim. Immediately, I again told Tim I was interested in the Foreman’s job but was told they were not going to fill it just yet. I also spoke to Mark and he said don’t get discouraged that the Foreman’s spot will open up at another time and to continue to take classes. So, I continued to take classes at CCM (County College of Morris) for certification in Supervision to better prepare myself for the Foreman’s position, I used my own time and I paid for all of the classes myself. In addition, I took a Transit and Level Class at Votech that the town, did pay for. This class was also to better myself for the Foreman’s position. I told
the Mayor, which at the time was Mr. Licitra that I was interested in the Foreman’s position and he asked if I told Mark that I was interested in the position and I replied yes, and that Mark had said I was first on the list for the Foreman’s position. Then the new Mayor was elected and soon after Tim was made the Acting Director of the DPW. I then approached Tim and said I would like the Supervisor’s position. He said well you know it would be two departments, roads and sanitation. I said I knew. Then,
he said he did not want to fill it just yet but he would keep me in mind. I then saw one of the new Councilmen at the Budd Lake Diner and I asked him if the Foreman’s position was going to open up any time soon and he said yes, why are you interested in it? Again I said yes and told him that I felt that I was ripped off when Mark did not fill the Foreman’s spot after Tim was made Supervisor and the Councilman said, so did Doug Philhower. I was not happy to learn that Doug was interested in the Foreman’s position, because I knew that Tim and Doug were very good friends outside of work. The following day, I told Tim that I spoke with one of the Councilmen and told him what we had spoken about. Tim looked at me with a look like oh I just got an internal candidate for the Foreman’s position. After that day, Tim changed his attitude towards me. He really did not talk to me anymore and if I gave him anything (cake, brownies, x¬mas gift) like I had for years he would say Oh, Thanks. I did question him about the way he had changed towards me and he said it was because of his new position as acting
Director of the DPW and doing the two Supervisor jobs too. I asked him again about the Foreman’s job and the Supervisor’s job and he said he did not know about the Foreman’s job but he could really use one and that the Supervisor spot he was not going to fill until he knew that he was going to be in his new position permanently. So, if the Director’s position did not work out he could fall back on the Supervisor’s spot. Then, I heard that Doug was told by Tim to put his application in for the Foreman’s job. A week later, the position was posted but it was posted only because it had to be. It did not mean any one who applied had a chance at getting it because Tim already had Doug picked out. I applied any way. Then, I was given an interview by Tim for the Foreman’s position. He came up to me and said do you mind if we do the interview in my truck. Well I knew I was not going to be getting the position, so I said fine. During the interview, Tim said, I don’t want you to think this interview is a waste of your time or mine because I really don’t know who the Foreman will be. (But what he conveyed was if! can’t get Mr. Lata (cont’d): Doug the salary he wants for the Foreman’s position it will be yours.) So, he continued to say who had applied for it and who would be getting an interview because not every one who applied was going to be interviewed. He also said Kevin applied, but he was one who was not getting an interview. I was then out for a few days and when I returned back to work I saw Doug’s truck in our lot. I knew what that meant. What I knew all long and tried to prepare myself for. Then Tim came down and said this is Doug the new Foreman, respect him like you did me and there should not be any problems. Then Tim looked at me and gave me a shit eating grin which I took as I screwed you. About an hour later Tim came to my job site, and he did it, again another shit eating grin. Proper management skills would have been to speak to me about the position either prior to announcing the new Foreman or right after. Now, I took that grin as another kick in the teeth and the rest of that day I got more and more worked up thinking about all the times I got screwed by my supervisor from the day I started till now and how I could not believe Tim did what he did and the way he went about it. I expected that position and I did a lot to show I was interested in it and to prepare for it. I was led to believe it would be mine when it finally opened up. For two days following the announcement, Tim never even tried to talk to me. At least in the past when I applied for a position and didn’t get it Mark had brought me in and said you know Tim is going to get the Supervisor’s position. Tim said nothing, but appeared to be proud of what he had done.
President Greenbaum: Walter I hate to interrupt you. Is it your intention to read this into the record verbatim? Is that your intention and I know that is what you are doing at this point, and I can have it typed into the record verbatim, and each Council member can have the opportunity to review the materials that you have given us which support, basically. I assume, which support your position. I saw some of the Administrative procedures what actually, other then to educate us in terms of your position that you were treated unfairly by the Township. What is it that you’re looking for Council to do on your behalf because I can tell you that in Administrative matters which deal with employees the Council does not get involved in terms of the process. There is a specific process which is set forth by the contract with MOTPEA that deals with the manner in which appeals are being taken and the process that needs to be followed. So even to the extent and I understand how your position to educating Council as to how you feel you have been mistreated is important to you, I am not sure that reading it into the record is going to do anything in addition to that which everyone can do in reading it for themselves. So that is why I kind of wanted to cut you off, and ask you what it is that you want us….assuming we all agree you have been mistreated; what is it you believe we can do, for your benefit? We can’t reinstate you; we can’t get involved in the appeals process in terms of the fact that you have been terminated. So what is it that you would like us to do?
Mr. Lata: I just would like the Council and the Public to be aware of what type of people the Township hires and how they treat their employees. The Council can read, at their leisure, read what I have given them, but if I may? I would like to say how I feel I was treated.
President Greenbaum: I don’t want to cut you off, that is the last thing I want to do, but in the same vein I have an obligation to keep the meeting moving forward, as is my obligation as Council President. So if you wanted to sum up in ten minutes what you feel are the most salient points in terms of how you feel you have been mistreated I would greatly appreciate that.
Mr. Lata: Okay, I feel I was mistreated because for three years they continuously implied I would be getting the Forman’s position. For saying things like if I ever needed anybody to be in charge you would be the one, don’t be intimidated by Kevin you are first on the list to be Forman. Tim in my opinion psychologically abused me repeatedly for three and a half years. I used to go to job sites after hours to make sure job sites were secure and properly finished off like concrete jobs, when I poured concrete curbs or side walks, which I did a lot of. Tim sent a letter to my home stating that I should have returned to work by now and that he was ready to terminate my employment before I foolishly gave him the opportunity to set me up, stating that he would say that he did not know how long he would hold my job
Mr. Lata (cont’d): for. That if I could get, up eat, go to the bathroom, I should be at work. These statements were threatening to me, and I was out on disability for medical reasons and he had no right to say something like that in a letter. I also felt I was being discriminated against when I was sent to St. Clare’s to be evaluated and suspended with out pay, and Kevin was not given the same treatment. Since it took two of us to have a verbal argument, he was the one that started being the aggressive one towards me, first by yelling and raising his hands and his arms, starting the verbal abuse. With me with words, Tim slammed me to the ground, which is not necessary and it was not right for a supervisor to touch me, unless there was a life threatening situation. Tim’s story gets more embellished each time he tells it. Also, Mr. Casey and Mr. Quinn did not take the advice of my psychiatrist to move me to a different department. Mr. Casey had said in my Suspension letter, I was not allowed on any Township property. I guess he didn’t realize I was a resident of this Township and Mr. Casey said in my termination letter, that I was being terminated. Then went on to say I was being terminated because I was on anxiety and anti-depressant medication. To me this was a discrimination against a person with a disability. On several occasions I have seen Bob Casey, and he would not say hello, shake his head, acknowledge, anything? That made me feels like a person that had a major problem. I just felt that was unprofessional for an acting business administrator. I am aware of situations similar to mine where employees were sent to anger management, and other cases where employees that had neglected to notify the town that they had lost drivers licenses and continued to drive town vehicles, putting the town at risk for a law suit and was not only allowed to resign from the township but re-hired by the township. Yet I have been treated as an outcast during and after my return from being out on disability. I wasn’t treated fairly, I was singled out, and they, the town, the administration and the supervisor and the DPW director destroyed my secure future. Not only destroyed my secure future, but it has affected my wife, my children. My children have written letters in the newspaper about what has happened. It has affected a lot of people in my family. I am not going to give up until I see that Mr. Quinn and Bob Casey, and Mr. Miele are removed from their positions in the Township, if it takes me a year or it takes me ten years. I have lived here for forty some years, I am going to be here for another thirty, so it doesn’t matter to me. It is just that, I don’t think it is right what they did to me, and that’s it.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, I apologize for cutting you off.
Mr. Lata: Okay.
President Greenbaum: Okay, I assume Mr. Casey you have nothing that you wish to respond on the record to at this point in time?
Mr. Casey: No, I think you will find in the packet that was given to you, there is the formal notices etc. that we supplied to him. I will simply note he has gone through all necessary appellant’s processes pursuant to his rights under the contract and currently there is a litigation pending on this issue.
President Greenbaum: Okay, I assume there are no further questions or comments from Council. Is that correct? Thank you, Mr. Lata. Is there anyone else who wishes to be heard? Seeing none, I close it to the public. At this point we will have final comments to be followed by an executive session, which we will deal with the issues of contract negotiations and 2005 non-union salary adjustments. Mayor, do you have any final comment this evening?
Mayor De La Roche: Just a couple of events I want to mention, over the weekend we had a baseball tournament. I was afforded the honor along with the Chief and the…Mr. …drawing a blank, right, brain lock, well anyway got to throw out the first ball for the various teams, and it was youngsters up to the age of eleven and it seemed to have been a very successful baseball tournament and I am sure it is going to continue. Today alone we went to the Senior Citizens building we had a proclamation declaring a Senior Citizens Day. They had Mr. Rattner and myself appeared, and we had... they had their Senior Citizens picnic and everybody seemed to be in a very jovial mood which is nice to see, that’s all.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, Mr. Buell.
Mr. Buell: None
Mrs. Labow: I just want to thank Mr. Dorsey for… I don’t know if he is still here? He left?
Mayor De La Roche: Yes.
Mrs. Labow: I just wanted to put it on record to thank Mr. Dorsey for the excellent job he did on the proclamations this evening for both Jane Israel and Laura Szwak and specifically for Jane Israel’s work. I do hope we keep with the tradition that every year on March 13th which marks the dedication day for the new Library that Township does honor her in some way for all her work that she has done to make sure we had a Public Library here in Mount Olive.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, Mr. Mund.
Mr. Mund: Just wanted to wish Jane Israel well in her move to Florida and wish Laura success in her endeavors with the Commission.
President Greenbaum: Mr.Guenther.
Mr.Guenther: I am going to be the fly in the ointment here. Regarding the old Municipal Building, it’s not that I am making exceptions on the comment that Mr. Perkins made, but I would like to add something. You know it’s… he reluctantly voted for, with the comment that this should have never happened, it should never have fallen into this repair. I think we can all be our own Council; I have been here for several years and can point fingers at ourselves, as being the blame for that. We never appropriated the funds, for taking care of that building, Okay? So we should say collective mea culpa up here for not doing that, and that goes back several years, especially the ones that have been here many years, I am one of those. So I will accept part of that blame myself, and I think that, you know, that is what we should look at. It’s a shame it did happen, but it was repeatedly referred to as benevolent neglect. Secondly I wanted, we threw a lot of laurels at Jane Israel and the Library and rightfully so, but this whole handicapped parking situation is just, I shake my head every time the discussion comes up, and it comes down to one of attitudes, the attitude of the service organizations and that is what I call the Library Board or the Library, should be to help the Township Citizens, and just because they go by the letter of the law that it’s ADA compliant, if it’s not practical you try to find a solution that is practical to service the needs of the citizens and that’s the attitude that is missing here. I am just flabbergasted over the fact that they find excuses all along the way, and the bottom line to me is the first remark that was made, well, the architect’s beautiful design of this great aesthetic which it is! It’s an aesthetically beautiful building, but it would be...
Mrs. Labow: Abomination.
Mr.Guenther: It would be an abomination to create these handicapped spots that would ruin this great aesthetic front. I am sorry, I have a really hard time with that, and to keep going on discussing this week after week, and I think it has been close to what now, two or three months now, that we have been discussing it, over such a little matter. I applauded Mr. Greenbaums decision. Let’s just check with legal counsel, let’s just get it done.
President Greenbaum: Thank you Mr. Rattner
Mr. Rattner: Yes, two things. One just to add something to Mr. Casey’s report on the planning area designation going down to the State, you made it sound like they didn’t get a lot accomplished talking to smart growth people. They said they actually made a very impressive presentation. The big issue is that the stage they’re in now, and it’s always been their schedule… after the initial Cross Acceptance; not make any mapping changes whatsoever, and they were expecting to have the map done, I guess in March. Right now, they’re trying to do all the things to get to that. They’re already probably three, four months behind, so…
Mr. Casey: So in the actual, we’re talking about, the Highlands maps will not affect the
PA 5 Zones?
Mr. Rattner: No, I am talking about Smart Growth that is separate from the Highlands. I have been meeting separately, in fact, I gave it to a couple of the staff people at the Highlands in town in the last couple weeks. Showing and saying, see this is what the State made us do on the Hackettstown
Mountain-- cut the rest of the ridge, do all this, put more kids in the school. Now we can’t pay for it, after we had to go for this? I am just saying that the presentation and what they’re saying is that everything, you’re saying that everything is just a bureaucracy and because they really don’t know. They are fielding new areas, but it’s not at this point, anything we didn’t do, or the effort your group put in, it’s just because it’s scheduled, and they are not going to listen to anybody to make any changes, at this time until they get the maps set up from the cross acceptance. Then once they get it, they said if they keep making changes they will never get it done, and they are already six to eight months behind, but they did say the presentation was, was very, very good. I just wanted to get that. You made it sound like, well, you just gave us some more problems. So that’s what’s happened there. You know I have been running around the Municipal Building and what the real problem is, has always been, just three council members that wanted to really move ahead with the…doing something with the Municipal Building and three always against and one always vacillating back and forth. We also went through two Mayors prior to this one that felt that the only thing we should do is just to implode the building and just build new, new, new. I think one of the things that is real interesting, I believe through 2002 we were still insuring that building for $1.6 Million justifying to the insurance company that is what it is really worth. I think the one real big problem was, is that yes, and it was money actually put away years ago that was still in a capital account until we took it out to spend it on something else, but it is when we didn’t repair the roof, that it really started to deteriorate. We had a number of groups, probably numbering around eight or nine, willing to put in both financially and mostly sweat equity to do something to try to make it a Community Center. In fact it was even Frank Ruggiero that said he would get the Italian Club, and then there was the Lions and the Kiwanis and other volunteers that said they would do a certain amount, and Mr. Rattner (cont’d): it was just because we didn’t have a consensus and I believe it was because the majority, basically like the last couple Mayors who did not go ahead, and what they did is, let’s do nothing and I know the design, very similar to what Mr. Perkins said, is let it fall down under its own weight, and they won! That’s exactly what happened. It finally came to the spot, and I don’t think the building can be saved. Of course, it cost too much because of the heating, electric, the infrastructure has been destroyed because of the water leaking through and weakening the concrete or the electrical is probably rusted out. I mean when we left the building it had a brand new heating system. I remember that emergency appropriation over a weekend when Eric had to put it in, because he couldn’t have the Town Employees come in on Monday and have no heat. We would be shut down for a couple weeks, but that is what happened. The bottom line is, we have gotten to the point we can always joke around; it wasn’t one person, it was at least half the people that decided the building should be taken down. There was never a consensus, and finally it has been gotten. I don’t think anybody disputes at this point that the only practical thing to do now, regardless how we got there, is to take it down, and to make something that a is usable. I think even the Mayor, when he first came in, one of his priorities, he wanted to try to save the building, just like a lot of us have been saying, but we have come to the realization it can’t be done anymore, and that is where we are. Thank you.
President Greenbaum: Mr. Perkins.
Mr. Perkins: That was great! That was good.
President Greenbaum: I agree with you.
Mr. Perkins: Yes, I mean that wasn’t too bad. A couple things, I don’t want to beat the old Municipal Building to death.
Mr. Rattner: That’s one way to knock it down.
Mr. Guenther: It would be cheaper.
Mr. Perkins: You know, and then again, yes, I have to blame myself because maybe I didn’t push hard enough to save the building. Maybe I didn’t find the ways and be creative enough to be able to find the funding and the right people, but I do know that being involved in this Township, that there were enough factions of people and Bernie you were one of the ones that wanted to save the building, for a while you were with us and then for a while more…
Mr. Guenther: No I never wanted too……….
Mr. Perkins: Yes, alright my memory is not as good as it used to be, but then, so the building was finally decided, I guess, by majority to take it down. I commend the Council President this year for pushing it, and for keeping it alive. We will get it down; it will be a nicer place. Whatever happens to the War Memorial, at that point it will either be moved or relocated or put some place else on the site. That
should be the end of that. The handicapped parking space was timely I guess, and ironic at the same time, but tonight prior to me coming to the Council Meeting there was a special segment on the news about handicapped parking and accessibility and stairs and the inability of the American Disabilities Act, to really become a 100% effective in the United States, and literally there is only 33%, if my numbers are correct, of the people with disabilities that are actually gainfully employed. The majority of the reason that the people with disabilities are not employed is because they cannot get to and from
work. It’s not they are being barred from the jobs. There has been adequate concessions made to get these people work, but there is actually no way for them to get on the buses. The old buses are not available everyplace there is, no transportation mode, some of them cannot get up the stairs, even with their climbers or their walkers, because the stairs are too high. They are not ADA compliant so, getting our own Township in order, getting the Library done, again, I have to give Rob a lot of credit. Let’s just get somebody over there, jack hammer out the curbs, put the depressed sidewalk in there and make accessible spots, however we get that done, whether it is with our force or if we hire our own engineers or contractors to do, it needs to be done. I am a little disappointed, not surprised, but still a little disappointed that the Camelot Tank back in 2002 we did not have the wherewith all to realize things are painted with lead, and that we should have had that tested. I hope Mr. Dorsey, I will definitely be together with him. If not, I will be by myself, I want to review the request for bid that was sent out the scope of work that was included in 2002, and I would also like to see that our water and sewer department, more specifically the water, that they start pulling the records and let’s see what years these tanks that we do own were painted and finally send a diver or somebody in there, and he finds out the cathodic protection has been completely dissolved should give you some sort of indication that the water is rather aggressive, and I have worked in the utility business long enough to know that the first time you approach it, you approach it as if it were lead. You don’t approach it as if it is not. So to hire a company Mr. Perkins (cont’d): in 2002 that is a professional firm that should have some liability insurance behind them, I would anticipate, if that was in there scope of work, we would go after them for some reimbursement, and then if it wasn’t in the scope of work then shame on us again, but it shouldn’t happen to us again. Thank you, Mr. President.
President Greenbaum: Thank you, I have two comments, this relates to the old Municipal Building. I made it one of my priorities in terms of as the year I was going to spend as Council President, I am very happy that we are finally moving forward with the demolition of that building. I agree there is no other choice; I disagree with everybody else in terms of letting the building go to neglect. I can tell you that my impression of building, which was prior to moving into town and it was probably somewhere, in the early to mid 90’s was that building needed to be demolished even before we moved out of it. I think many of you sitting up here just have a false recollection as to the condition of that building at the time Mount Olive started to occupy this building. I walked in there and thought to myself I can’t believe that any municipality in the State of New Jersey is still using a building in this condition, that’s number one. Number two, I want to respond or at least comment in respect to the Mayor’s comments with regard to the last meeting and this meeting in terms of events that he has attended. I think it is an extremely important function of the Mayor’s office to be out there, and I have often said that one of the most important things that the Mayor does is be the head cheerleader for the township, so I applaud your efforts in terms of being out there. I forget what it was last time, but you mentioned baseball and senior citizens and I applaud your efforts. I can tell you that both I and Mr. Rattner were out this week speaking with property owners and business owners in terms of generating ratables, so we are all out there doing something for the Township. At this point I would ask that Mr. Perkins move us into executive session at which point the only action we will take is to adjourn the meeting.
• Contract Negotiations
• 2005 Non-Union Salary Adjustment
Mr.Perkins: Thank you, Mr. President. Under section 7 and 8 of the Open Public Meetings Act and I move that we go into executive session for purposes of contract negotiations and 2005 non-salary adjustments.
President Greenbaum: Is there a second?
Mr. Mund: Second.
President Greenbaum: It has been moved and seconded, all in favor. We are going to take a two minute break and come back.
Adjourn to Executive session: Motion to go in to Executive Session made and seconded. All were in favor and Executive Session started at 10:34 and ended at 11:08 pm the meeting reconvened and was adjourned at 11:22 pm.
Robert J. Greenbaum
I, HEREBY CERTIFY the foregoing to be a true copy of a resolution adopted by the Mount Olive Township Council at a duly convened meeting held on August 9, 2005.
Lisa M. Lashway