Mt. Olive Township Council Minutes
December 17, 2002


The Regular Meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council was called to order at 8:10 pm by Council President Scapicchio with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.

MOMENT OF REFLECTION in recognition of the men and women fighting terrorism and defending the freedom we all enjoy


According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate Notice of this Meeting has been given to the Mt. Olive Chronicle and the Morristown Daily Record. Notice has been posted at in the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mt. Olive, New Jersey, and notices were sent to those requesting the same.

ROLL CALL: Present: Mr. Rattner, Mrs. Miller (left at 10 pm), Mr. Perkins,
Mr. Spino, President Scapicchio
Absent: Mr. Guenther, Mr. Greenbaum

Also in attendance: Mayor Licitra, Cynthia Spencer, Business Administrator; Sherry Jenkins, CFO; John Dorsey, Township Attorney; Lisa Lashway, Township Clerk.


Daniel Amianda, School Board Liaison: I just want to thank the Mayor and the Council for the support and contribution you made towards our Football Team championship in Section III Division II. The Board really appreciates all the contributions. The Mayor and the Council were behind us and the whole Township was really in support of what the Board is doing. The Board seems to think that is the way we should be working and we would be appreciating all the contributions that we can get from you. The Board met yesterday and the main item on the agenda was honoring the Mt. Olive Football team. The Mayor and a good number of the Council Members were present. In regard to honoring the Football Team, there is a suggestion by Remax Realty, they want to sponsor a dinner for the football team. The majority of the Board is in support of that idea of honoring the Football Team. We are looking forward to that. Also, yesterday we discussed the parking space issue at the high school. In response to the Town's concern, the majority of the Board seems to not have an answer to the Council and they have no idea what is to be done. At last nights' meeting, the Board seems not to have an answer with the idea; or the solution to the problem is that they want to discourage the students from driving to the High School. They want the students to use the public transportation. They are unwilling to set aside any money towards creating parking spaces at the High School. Also, yesterday the Board passed a resolution in regard to the need of flashing lights at Sandshore school. There has been a concern about the safety of the kids when the buses are leaving the school. The Superintendent/ Administration was recommending the red light. According to the resolution, they want the Town to do a traffic study and then come up with a recommendation. The original motion by the Board was that they were to share the costs of putting a red light there. That motion was not passed it was amended to ask the Council to do the study. Those are my comments unless somebody has a question.

President Scapicchio: Any questions for Daniel?

Mr. Perkins: Correct me if I am wrong Daniel, the Board wants the Township to expend the funds to do a traffic study and they don't want to contribute at all to that?

Mr. Amianda: As I said, the Administration's recommendation was that the Board was to share the costs, but that motion was defeated, but it was amended to ask the Town to do the study before the installing of the light in which the Board will have to bear some of the expenses.

Mr. Perkins: So then I am correct. You want the Township to expend the funds, and the Board is not sure whether they would expend any later on down the road based upon the outcome of this traffic study based on the sole expense of the base of the taxpayers, correct?

Mr. Amianda: No. That is not correct the Board will spend some funds after the study has been done.

Mr. Rattner: Mr. Perkins, what that resolution was on the Board last night was that they were requesting that a blinking light be put up at the Sandshore School which they would share. They said they know that we have problems and they were willing to spend half the money to put it up. The resolution got defeated because a couple Board Members said why are we paying to put up a light if we don't know it is appropriate without having the
Mr. Rattner (cont'd): proper review done. The resolution that was passed was asking the Police Department for their recommendation, whatever they do if it would help the situation. If they say it is appropriate, then we pass another resolution saying that they would pay half the costs.

Mr. Perkins: I misunderstood. I thought you were looking for a full blown traffic study by a certified traffic engineer. You are not looking for that; you are looking for the Township's Police Department to make a recommendation.

Mr. Amianda: I think the Police Department would work with the traffic person to come up here.

Mr. Perkins: I misunderstood Daniel, I thought you wanted us to go out and hire a consultant and have him come out and do a professional traffic analysis for you.

Mr. Amianda: No, it is not that way.

Mr. Rattner: We already spent the money on the traffic study looking at the football field, because we noticed those nice lines that you have every 10 yards, and we figured we can make them into parking spaces. When you don't have football games we could use that for overflow parking.

President Scapicchio: Thanks Steve.

Mrs. Miller: I was concerned about that red blinking light at Sandshore. Is that going to be like a school crossing blinking light?

President Scapicchio: Charlene at this point we don't know what it is, they have a problem with the traffic flow and what brought this to the attention to the School Board last night, it is my understanding, correct me if I am wrong Daniel, that over the past several weeks or the past month or so, there has been almost two mishaps that have brought this to the attention of the Board, and they are now requesting that the Police Department look at it to give an opinion as to what needs to be done to improve the traffic flow.

Mr. Miller: I am not aware of any traffic signals like traffic lights that are any place other than Route 206 and Route 46. If it is a school blinking light warning motorists that there are students crossing the road, that I could understand; a traffic light I cannot understand.

President Scapicchio: At this point there is no proposal of any kind of a light. The proposal is to have the Police Department evaluate the situation and make a recommendation. Is that correct Daniel?

Mr. Amianda: Yes, that is correct.

President Scapicchio: Then we will take the next step.

Mr. Amianda: Also, yesterday was the Superintendent's last day as an official with the School Board. Starting January 6th, the new Superintendent Mrs. Rosalie La Monte will be representing the District. Thank you.

President Scapicchio: Thank you, Daniel. Anyone else from the Public?

Richard Bonte, Budd Lake: Normally I would not bring up something at the beginning of the meeting, Mr. Amianda was just here, I was wondering if anybody was going to ask him about Mountain View School, the parking spots. That has not been discussed yet.

President Scapicchio: I thought the comments were that the recommendation was a good recommendation. Isn't that what you said Steve?

Mr. Rattner: I don't remember that.

President Scapicchio: Daniel, you got our latest recommendation for eliminating those parking spaces on Linwood Ave. and the comments last night were that it was an appropriate change.

Mr. Amianda: Yes.

President Scapicchio: Thank you. Anyone else from the Public? Seeing none.



President Scapicchio: I guess there is no other additional Turkey Brook Park status report.

Mrs. Spencer: No other than the fact that the football goal posts have been installed other than that no other work.


Mr. Dorsey: Just that I think right after the first of the year, we have to decide and discuss what we are going to do with Smith Farm, I sent you a letter on that today. We have to have serious discussion.


November 26, 2002 Present: President Scapicchio, Mr. Guenther, Mr. Spino, Mr. Perkins, Mr. Greenbaum, Mr. Rattner
Absent: Mrs. Miller

Mr. Rattner moved for approval of the minutes; Mr. Perkins seconded that motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously with the exception of Mrs. Miller, abstained.

Resolutions, Ordinances, Correspondence from Other Municipalities

1. Ordinance received December 12, 2002, from the Hackettstown Attorney's office regarding Active Adult - Conditional Use Ordinance.

2. Resolution received December 13, 2002, from Rockaway Township regarding Resolution 02-239 Hotel Occupancy Tax.

League of Municipalities

3. Email received November 27, 2002, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Senate version of Nonconforming uses bill, S-2106, (Formerly S-1734) scheduled for Senate Hearing - Thursday, December 5, 2002.

4. Email received December 9, 2002, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Nonconforming uses up for vote in Assembly and Senate Committee on Thursday, December 12, 2002.

5. Letter received December 10, 2002, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding the 87th Annual Conference.


6. Letter received December 9, 2002, from Comcast regarding Upgrade of Cable Plan Completed, Live Demos at Hackettstown Mall, Holiday Traditions, and Merger with AT&T Completed.

7. Letter received December 11, 2002, from Elizabeth Gas regarding rate increase and tariff changes.


8. Minutes received December 11, 2002, from the Musconetcong Sewerage Authority regarding the November 6th meeting.

Legislative Representatives

9. Letter received December 11, 2002, from the Morris County Board of Chosen Freeholders regarding Municipal Reorganization meeting.

10. Letter received December 12, 2002, from Morris County Board of Chosen Freeholders regarding the Sun Valley Brook Greenway Project.

President Scapicchio Stated that we had 13 pieces of correspondence on the Agenda and asked Council for comments on same.

Mr. Rattner: Just one on the Budget resolution, you'll notice that there is a credit from the Musconetcong Sewage Authority for $136,000. That was due to two decreases that we had during the year.


Ord. #52-2002 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing Certain Stop Intersections.

President Scapicchio opened the Public Hearing on Ordinance #52-2002.

Maryanne Berry, 191 Flanders-Netcong Road: My name is Maryanne Berry I live at 191 Flanders-Netcong Road where there is a proposed stop sign at the corner of Flanders-Netcong and Drakesdale. The question is not so much about that sign, but about what agency within our local government is managing or overseeing the reconstruction of that intersection, that stop sign is just one part of it. I have been in touch with Mr. Buczynski and I think the matter may be a little complicated because of County Roads being involved where County approval is needed, so I just want to stay on top of the situation so that myself and my neighbors can see the plans before they are finally approved.

President Scapicchio: Cindy, do you have an update for us and Mrs. Berry?

Mrs. Spencer: I do not but I will make sure that she gets reports as the work progresses.

Mayor Licitra: We have three separate plans that have been proposed for that corner. Each one of them are good. Some are better than the others. We are in the process now of reviewing them and finding out which one we feel is the best. Of course we are going to get some outside help, we have help from the County on it, but they are already signed off on all three of them because they feel any one of them can work but your suggestion is a good one and before we go any further, I have asked Mr. Spino since he first of all lives over there, he lives on Flanders-Netcong Road and also he has been on the Planning Board, so I have asked him to review them because he takes that road everyday like yourself. So we should be somewhere around two or three weeks away after we get it. We will follow up with you, we have your name. What I would like you to do is get in touch with your neighbors and before we go any further after we look at which one we feel will make it, which one we feel is correct, we will get in touch with you and with your people. Okay?

Mrs. Berry: Thank you very much.

President Scapicchio: Anyone else from the Public on this Ordinance? Seeing none we will close the Public Hearing.

Mr. Perkins moved for adoption and final passage of Ordinance #52-2002. Mrs. Miller seconded the motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously.

President Scapicchio declared Ordinance #52-2002 as passed on second reading and hereby directed the Clerk to forward a copy of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption as required by law.

Ord. #53-2002 Refunding Bond Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive, In the County of Morris, New Jersey Providing for the Refunding of Certain Unfunded Pension Liabilities of the Township Appropriating $650,000 Therefore and Authorizing the Issuance of $650,000 Refunding Bonds of the Township for Financing the Cost Thereof.

President Scapicchio opened the Public Hearing on Ordinance #53-2002.

President Scapicchio closed the Public Hearing on Ordinance #53-2002.

Mr. Spino moved for adoption and final passage of Ordinance #53-2002. Mrs. Miller seconded the motion.

President Scapicchio Council Discussion? Seeing none.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously.

President Scapicchio declared Ordinance #53-2002 as passed on second reading and directed the Clerk to forward a copy of same to the Mayor and Publish the Notice of Adoption as required by law.



Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are considered to be routine and non-controversial by the Township Council and will be approved by one motion (one vote). There will be no separate discussion or debate on each of these resolutions except for the possibility of brief clarifying statements that may be offered. If one or more Council member requests, any individual resolution on the Consent Agenda may be removed from the Consent Agenda List and acted on separately.


1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Confirm Russ Brown's Appointment of Construction Code Official.

2. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of $100,000.00 in the Reserve for Tax Appeals.

3. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Renewal of a Lease Agreement with the County of Morris/Mount Olive Senior Center.

4. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Requesting Approval from the Director of the Division of Local Government Services for Insertion of a Specific Item of Revenue into the 2002 Municipal Budget ($780.00 for Tobacco Age-of-Sale Enforcement Grant).

5. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive RE: Telephone Equipment and Wiring Upgrade.

6. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Continuation of a Contract with D2L Associates, Inc.

7. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive RE: Baptist Church Property.

8. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Providing for the Transfer of 2002 Budget Appropriations for the Current Fund Budget for Salary and Wages.

9. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Providing for the Transfer of Excess Storm Control Funds of $35,000 into the Accumulated Snow Control Trust Fund.

10. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of 2002 Current Appropriation Balances.

11. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Change of Amount in 2002 Current Fund Budget Appropriations in Accordance with NJS 40A:4-85.

12. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Transfer of 2002 Budget Appropriations for Salaries and Wages.

13. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of 2002 Sanitation District Budget Balances.

14. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of 2002 Appropriations in the Sewer Utility Fund.

15. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of 2002 Appropriations in the Water Utility Fund.

16. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of the DEP Resource Recovery Grant of $5,000.00.

17. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of Sewer Capital Improvement Authorization Balances.

18. A Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Canceling Taxes on Block 2801 Lot 48 & 49 Previously Owned by Victor and Cynthia Holmkvist and Acquired by the State of New Jersey Department of

19. Environmental Protection (Green Acres) on November 1, 2002.

20. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of any Overpayment or Delinquent Taxes Under $1.00.

21. Resolution of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Approval of the purchase of the GovExcel Municipal Software Product for Construction Program Services and Interdepartmental Reports.

22. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Establishing the Annual Reorganization Meeting for January 7, 2003.

23. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing Gen III Builders to Dedicate Open Space to the Township.

24. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Reducing the Performance Guarantees of the Kaplan Companies - RE: Oak Hill Section III.


Mr. Perkins moved for approval of Consent Resolutions 1 through 24. Mrs. Miller seconded the motion.

Mrs. Miller: I have a question. That resolution that we just omitted Section II on the upgraded wiring, I can't find it in here but that should be noted that it has been amended.

President Scapicchio: That was resolution No. 5, and the last paragraph of that resolution has been amended and the Administration has acknowledged that they will get back to us before any contracts are awarded.


President Scapicchio: Anyone from the Public wish to address the Council on this Consent Resolution Agenda? Seeing none.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously


1. Bill List.

Mr. Rattner moved Bill List as submitted to be approved. Mr. Perkins seconded that motion.

President Scapicchio: Any discussion Council?

Mr. Spino: Just that one bill we talked about, Kyle Conte.

Mrs. Spencer: I could not find the memo, I will ask Gene Buczynski to resend it, but I know that he wrote it and he stated that he felt that the funds that were remaining were about $350,000 are sufficient to cover any erosion or anything that occurs over the Winter and to complete the project. I will have him resubmit that.

President Scapicchio: Council, do we want to leave this on the list and pay it or do we want to see that letter?

Mr. Rattner: I would like to see it removed until we get the back up.

President Scapicchio: The other question that we had also was, were we going to ask Kyle Conte to give us a letter or a document or affidavit to the effect that…

Mr. Dorsey: The standard AIA contract called upon him to give him an affidavit that all materials and sub-contractors have been paid in full. That certification or affidavit should be obtained before these payments are made. Cindy?

Mrs. Spencer: Absolutely. I sent him a letter to that effect last Wednesday morning and I have not received the affidavit back from him.

President Scapicchio: Okay so we are going to remove this now from the Bill List and it will go back on the Bill List once we receive Mr. Buczynski's letter and if that is of satisfactory condition, and also the affidavit from Kyle Conte certifying that infact the materials and vendors have been paid. Council, is that okay with everybody?

Mr. Perkins: Mr. Dorsey, the release of liens, that's pretty much what we are talking about in the AIA document. Is that on the final payment or is that for any future payment.

Mr. Dorsey: In the first place we are not talking about liens. This is a certification. You have a $5 million project. He essentially has paid everyone. Sometimes depending on the shakiness of the contractor they require it with every payment. So long as it is a perfectly good payment.

President Scapicchio: Great. Okay, so we are going to have an amended Bill List that is going to remove from page one, the payment of $108,325 payable to Kyle Conte Construction and it is listed here as payment number nine. Is that correct Lisa?

Mrs. Lashway: yes.

Mr. Spino moved for approval the amended Bill List, Mrs. Miller seconded the motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously.

2. Approval of an Application to Amend Raffle License #1049 for the Budd Lake First Aid & Rescue Squad; Raffle Application #1054 and Raffle Application #1055 for K of C #6100 Fr. Joseph A. Cassidy Council.

Mr. Perkins moved for Approval of an Application to Amend Raffle License #1049 for the Budd Lake First Aid & Rescue Squad; Raffle Application #1054 and Raffle Application #1055 for K of C #6100 Fr. Joseph A. Cassidy Council. Mr. Rattner seconded that motion

Mrs. Miller: Are we amending all of those?

Mrs. Lashway: No we are amending the raffle license for #1049 which was previously approved by rejected by the State.

Mrs. Miller: Okay so we are amending one of them, but we are approving the others.

Mrs. Lashway: Yes.

Mrs. Miller: Okay that is what I wanted to clarify.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously.


Library Board Liaison Report

Mrs. Miller: I didn't bring by notes with me, basically I guess everything is waiting for the bids to go out. There was some discussion about the Council issuing funding to build the addition on to the garage instead of

Mrs. Miller (cont'd): giving them the money to add to the basement but I also reminded them that their construction will probably not be completed for a year and the construction of the building for the Township records, maybe I didn't clarify that; you look puzzled, could be done in a much shorter time frame

President Scapicchio: I looked puzzled Charlene because what should have been brought to their attention was the fact that this storage space is costing us about 80,000, it's actually under $100,000. I think the Budget was $60,000-80,000.

Mrs. Miller: Well they felt that they could get a lot more storage space.

President Scapicchio: Just for the record, that is not the proposal that Jane Israel or the Library made to this Council through the architects budget numbers. The recommendation that they made was that in round numbers 4,500 square feet would cost us about $575,000 and 12,000-13,000 square feet was in excess of $1million. That was the reason why we opted for this option and not for the storage at the library.

Mrs. Miller: Plus, it was the time element, that's what I reminded them of. We had a six month grace period that the Foreign Trade Zone gave it storage space, and there was no way that the new library was going to be built in six months.

President Scapicchio: I think time was a consideration it was dollars.

Mrs. Miller: Okay well, anyways I am sorry that I did forget my notes.

Recreation Report

Mrs. Miller: There is no recreation report, Mr. Guenther is not here.

Board of Health Report

Mr. Perkins: Thank you Mr. President. There was no meeting this month. All the business was taken care of in November and we look to reorganize in January.

Planning Board Report

President Scapicchio: Mr. Greenbaum is not here.

Open Space Committee Report

Mrs. Miller: Everything is pretty much the same. I know that the Smithtown track was discussed, but Mr. Dorsey said that we will be talking about that in January.

Legislative Committee Report

President Scapicchio: Mr. Guenther is not here.

Pride Committee Report

Mr. Perkins: Pride Committee had not meeting this month. They will be looking at getting back together some time in January. I just wanted to update everybody on the new Welcome to Mt. Olive sign. Through the efforts of the Pride Committee there are four sponsors for the entering of Mt. Olive, the one up by the Gathering Place, coming up from Hackettstown was taken by Stroud Excavating. Bill Stroud has been a resident in the Town for quite a while and one more leaving Mt. Olive sign was taken by George's Liquors that hosts for the Kiwanis where the Santa house is, and that will be the leaving Mt. Olive sign which should be going down somewhere around the pumphouse. That only leaves two leaving Mt. Olive Signs left to go. I think the signs are nice, the Eagle Scout, Mr. Herbs who did the decoration around the one by the ITC, I think he did an excellent job. Looking at some of the other Township's around, we went to the DOT and actually got their permission, so that is why you don't see any of those block walls around hours. We were pretty much given the criteria which to follow and we did. Nothing else to report on them.

President Scapicchio: What is the cost of those leaving Mt. Olive signs?

Mr. Perkins: With tax, approximately $1, 543. Pretty much as I have made the presentations to the Chamber of Mr. Perkins (cont'd): Commerce and some of the other folks that have gone in, if they advertised that over 10 years, it costs a $154.00 a year for advertising because it has their company name on it.

President Scapicchio: Do you have a picture of that sign Ray?

Mr. Perkins: We originally had it on in a frame I am going to ask Mr. Catelli to bring that back up to us here so that we can hang that someplace. We do have photos I could send you through email.

President Scapicchio: What locations Ray did you say were still available?

Mr. Perkins: There are still two leavings; one would be Northbound on Route 206 which would be diagonally across from the Exxon Station. The other one would be leaving Mt. Olive as you go in to Netcong on Route 46 heading east. If you would like information Dave, I would be more than happy to have the gentleman get in touch with you.

President Scapicchio: I think I may have one sold for you.

Mrs. Miller: Can I maybe make a recommendation to the Pride Committee because I don't know where else to bring this up. I noticed we don't have any welcome to New Jersey signs on any of our bridges. Any other state that you go to you see welcome to whatever state it is, maybe the Pride Committee could write a letter to the Governor asking him to get some "Welcome to New Jersey" signs. There are none on the Delaware Water Gap Bridge. I haven't seen one as you come in from New York City either. New Jersey doesn't welcome anybody and we always have to pay tolls to get out of the State.

Mr. Perkins: Well that is the only time they do welcome you; the Garden State Parkway and the New Jersey Turnpike where they collect tolls. That is true.

Mrs. Miller: Maybe that is something the Pride Committee could look into. I know that is kind of out of our jurisdiction but I thought maybe could start a letter writing campaign.

Status of Committee RE: Lake/Environment Issues

Mr. Perkins: Okay, no problem. Then Dave, moving on for the Lake and Environmental issues, Cindy informed me today that she had sent me a memo via email, unfortunately I have yet to have time to stop at my house today, so with that I will defer to Mrs. Spencer to bring you up to date on that.

Mrs. Spencer: We had an in-house meeting just to go through the maps that the ADPPBBL had provided and essentially they had indicated all of the stream inlets and the major out flows, and engineering has been working for the last month to identify where those outflows are connected so they are in the process of identifying all the detention basins and it is a very manpower intensive activity in that they need to walk all of the pipelines to determine all the flows. In so doing they are using a hand held GPS unit which can then be translated on to the County GIS maps since we don't own a mapping system here so that we will eventually end up with a full network, all of the piping and the drains and what goes into the Lake. I have asked the Health Department, OEM and Engineering Department to put together their Standard Operating Procedures so that we will have in writing the process of who is notified by ADPPBBL whenever there is a spill. We have determined that there needs to be a different system for a product spill vs. a water and sewer spill because the method of containment is different as it is for remediation. There were some recommendations made and to make a long story short, the recommendation is that the full committee get back together in February and there are a couple of items that we would be asking the committee to come back to be prepared to talk about at that point too so hopefully at that meeting we could agree upon an early warning system that will be in use and identify all of the major players so that should anything occur, everyone who needs to know would be in the know.

Mr. Perkins: Cindy, I know you and I have spoken on this. I see as this winds down and we get a little handle on the emergency response plan, do you envision this as a quarterly meeting, a semiannual meeting that may need to take place between the Township and the Budd Lake people.

Mrs. Spencer: I think it would be a wise idea to have a quarterly meeting just to make sure that everyone still feels comfortable should the situation change in any way, or even just to review incidents to make sure that everybody to be notified or if we have incidents where postings are required that the Lake Association is doing them since they volunteered that they would do that even though we are going to provide the placards and the lays to make it happen. I think it would be a wise idea to keep open lines of communication.


President Scapicchio: That brings us to the last and final Public Portion of this Council Meeting? Seeing none.


Mr. Rattner: I have a couple comments. First I noticed the spilt rail fence coming in. Sometimes little things can make such a big difference in the esthetics. I mean it really looked good, the Administration should be congratulated for that. I know that is relatively inexpensive, but it just sets everything off really nice, it keeps people off the grass too. The second thing; we keep talking about what we could do to increase safety on Route 46. You have heard everything. The Police Department wants to put Jersey barriers on and everything else. I witnessed a situation on Sunday which is the most ridiculous thing that you just can't legislate sanity. There were a couple different emergency calls on Route 46. First I think a woman fell down not too far from Spring Street in her driveway, right at the road. There were four police cars. There were a couple Emergency Vehicles. Police Cars parked in the fast lane going west. The Emergency Management vehicle, the Fire Marshall's Vehicle is parked almost on the side of the road and there are flares all around. Now it's four police cars, there is a fire truck, there's all these flares. A guy in a new Chrysler comes down, goes around the police car, in-between the Flare and rear ends the truck we just replaced for Freddy Detoro. Now there was not much damage on the truck but the car had to be towed. The police asked what he was trying to accomplish, he said I was trying to get around everything. He had to go around the Police car in-between, I don't even know how he did it. You know when you talk about trying to make things safer. It wasn't Freddy Detoro, it was his assistant, he was all broken up because he was covering for Freddy, and he didn't know how to tell Freddy his truck got hit. But it was the most unbelievable thing. And then there was another accident and they had to leave, where they had to roll over to a serious one down across from the plumbing. But, what are these people thinking?

Mayor Licitra: We had conversation last week; remember what we said that people will find other ways around the trap? Well that is a perfect example.

Mr. Rattner: But this was the most…I don't even know how you are going to draw a diagram. Because no one is going to believe it. The other thing I just want to say is that this is our last meeting before the holidays; I would just like to wish everybody a healthy and prosperous holiday season and New Year and lets pray for a limited amount of snow.

Mr. Perkins: I just wanted to comment. It has been a exciting first year being up here. It has been an experience, I have tried to listen to as much as the residents concerns, I already knew how I felt about an issue before I came up here, so I always tried to find out what the opposite side was thinking before I cast a vote. I share a tremendous concern for Route 46, my wife unfortunately was in an accident a few years ago on Route 46, I have witnessed quite a few accidents on Route 46, I am not convinced that the best solution isn't a Jersey barrier with negotiated cloverleaf someplace so that you have traffic lights that control people that are making left hand turns across the traffic. School; I was fortunate enough to be able to sit and review the Budgets for that and to have some input. I do look very disparagingly upon the parking situations and the safety concerns that keep popping up. Sandshore now becomes another problem and I remember asking the question would we be done at Mountain View. Were there problems at any other schools and the answer came back no and surprise now there is a problem perceived at least up at Sandshore School. I think working closely with the School Board, and our Administrative staff and the Mayor I know have been very instrumental and David has been there, our Council President on our behalf and some of the other Council Members that have been there. We have major concerns with parking around all of the school facilities and I would like to discourage students from not driving their cars, I would like to discourage them from dressing the way they do and listening to some of the music they do, but that doesn't work. So I think we really need to stop trying to discourage them and really look at the root of what's happening there. The fact and the reality is it's 2002 going into 2003 and we need to address it. We have serious parking issues around that are affecting the other residents within the area. Other than that I thank everybody for their patience with my performance or lack of this past year and hope you all have a happy healthy holiday.

Mrs. Miller: Those were such nice reflections. I have a question for Cindy, this morning I saw the pump station by the First Aid Squad on Route 46. The sirens were going and the lights were flashing and I did call it in. I was driving by on my school bus, I had to wait until I got to the school, and then I called in and the police officer that answered said that they were responding to it. Can you fill me in? Do you know anything about it.

Mrs. Spencer: I do not.

Mrs. Miller: We didn't have any electrical failures anywhere in Town, did we?

Mrs. Spencer: There was nothing major otherwise I would have received a call.

Mayor Licitra: We will email you tomorrow Charlene, we'll ask Mark.

Mrs. Miller: Okay, I was just curious, I am not demanding information or anything, I was just curious because I did call it in and apparently somebody else had already beat me to it. I too would like to wish everybody a happy safe holiday.

Mr. Spino: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

President Scapicchio: I would just like to wish everyone a very happy and safe holiday season.

Motion was made at 8:50 pm to go into executive session t to conduct three six month employee reviews and contract negotiation/litigation in reference to Turkey Brook Park. Immediately following the executive session the Public Meeting reconvened and adjourned at 10:45 pm

Bernhard Guenther
Council President

I, LISA M LASHWAY, Township Clerk of the Township of Mount Olive do hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes is a true and correct copy of the Minutes approved at a legally convened meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council duly held on February 11, 2003.

Mount Olive Township Clerk



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