TOWNSHIP COUNCIL PUBLIC MEETING MINUTES
- May 25, 2010
The Public Meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council was called to Order at 7:16 President Tobey: We will begin with the Open Public Meeting Announcement as the Pledge of Allegiance and moment of reflection was earlier.
OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT ANNOUNCEMENT
According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate notice of this meeting has been given to the Daily Record. Notice has been posted at the Municipal Building , 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mount Olive Township , New Jersey and notices were sent to those requesting the same.
Present: Mrs. Labow, Mr. Walsh, Mr. Mania, Mr. Perkins, Mr. Roman, Mr. Greenbaum and Mr. Tobey
Also Present: David Scapicchio, Mayor; Sherry Maniscalco, CFO; Bill Sohl, Business Administrator; John Dorsey, Esq., Township Attorney; Lisa Lashway, Township Clerk
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
April 27, 2010 PM (all present)
May 11, 2010 WS (all present)
President Tobey: We're up to approval of Minutes of the previous meeting. Mrs. Labow, would you please move that?
Mrs. Labow: I move the minutes for April 27, 2010 Public Meeting and May 11, 2010 Workshop.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS/ORGANIZATIONS
E-mail received May 10, 2010, from Morris Tomorrow regarding 21 st Annual Awards Breakfast, June 17, 2010.
2. Letter received May 12, 2010, from Mount Olive Child Care and Learning Center regarding proposed improvements.
3. E-mail received May 17, 2010 from United Way of Morris County regarding Morris County Affordable Housing Showcase Bus Tour.
RESOLUTIONS / ORDINANCES / CORRESPONDENCE OTHER TOWNS
4. E-mail received May 7, 2010, from Jefferson Township regarding Consent Agenda Resolution opposing Senate Bill S-458, Transferring Municipal Tax Assessor to the County.
5. Ordinance No.10-10 received May 10, 2010, from Township of Roxbury regarding Land Use, amending Chapter XIII, Land Development, Article VII, Zoning Regulations, and Eliminating Subsidized Accessory Apartments as a Specific Use.
6. Resolution received May 12, 2010, from the Township of Boonton regarding Senate Bill No. S458.
7. Correspondence received May 17, 2010, from the Borough of Stanhope Land Use Board regarding a notice of public hearing to amend the Master Plan to include a Trails and Greenway Plan.
8. Resolution received May 19, 2010, from the Township of Hanover regarding a Resolution supporting Governors 2.5% Cap on Annual Property Tax Increases and a Resolution Opposing the Adoption of Senate No. 458.
DOT / DEP / LOI / HIGHLANDS / EPA
9. Correspondence received May 10, 2010, from the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection regarding a Highlands Applicability and Water Quality Management Plan (WQMP) Consistency Determination Application Form, Notice of Technical Incompleteness, regarding Mountaintop Assembly of God Church, Block 8400, Lot 3, 6 Naughright Road, Mt. Olive Township.
10. Correspondence received May 10, 2010, from the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection regarding a Highlands Applicability and Water Quality Management Plan (WQMP) Consistency Determination Application Form, Notice of Administrative Completeness, regarding the Ramilo Property, Block 2514, Lot 4, 39 St. Johns Road, Mt. Olive Township.
11. Correspondence received May 10, 2010, from the State of New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection regarding a Highlands Applicability and Water Quality Management Plan (WQMP) Consistency Determination Application Form, Notice of Administrative Completeness, regarding 500 Drakestown Road, Mt. Olive Township, Block 7000, Lot 19.
12. Correspondence received May 17, 2010, from the State of New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection regarding a No Further Action Letter, Mt. Olive Villages Sewer Co., 40 Wolfe Road, Mt. Olive Township.
13. Letter received May 18, 2010, from Wicklow & Laurano Properties, LLC regarding application for a permit to the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection for property at 362 Route 206, BL 6800, Lot 11.
14. Correspondence received May 19, 2010, from EcolSciences, Inc., on behalf of Mt. Olive Industrial Realty Co. LLC, regarding an Application for an Extension of Letter of Interpretation: Line Verification, BL 104 Lots 2 and 4, BL 107, Lot 3 (650 International Drive).
15. Letter received May 20, 2010, from the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection regarding Permit Application No. WCP080001, New Jersey American Water Company – West Jersey, New Academy Lane Well 3.
16. Letter received May 20, 2010, from the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection regarding a Permit for Reactivation of the Academy Lane Well 3, BL 2100, Lot 12.
17. Letter received May 20, 2010, from the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection regarding Modification to an Individual Freshwater Wetlands Permit and Stream Encroachment Permit for Applicant: The Land Conservancy of New Jersey, BL 7000, Lots 64.01 through 64.17.
18. Letter received May 21, 2010, from the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection regarding a Notice of Technical Incompleteness pertaining to a Highlands Applicability and Water Quality Management Plan (WQMP) Consistency Determination Application for BL: 2801, Lots 14 and 11 (80 Lozier Road).
19. Letter received May 21, 2010, from Yannone, Villa & Aldrich, LLC regarding a Freshwater Wetlands Application Checklist on behalf of Wicklow & Laurano Properties, LLC, BL: 6800, Lot 11 (362 Route 206).
20. Letter received May 21, 2010, from Yannone, Vila & Aldrich, LLC regarding a NJDEP Flood Hazard Are Permit Application on behalf of Wicklow & Laurano Properties, LLC, BL: 6800, Lot 11, (362 Route 206).
LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITIES
21. E-mail received May 7, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding New Jersey League of Municipalities Proposed Review.
22. E-mail received May 11, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Mayors Letter Tool Kit news.
23. E-mail received May 12, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding FEMA E- mail Alerts.
24. E-mail received May 12, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Pension Workshops.
25. E-mail received May 12, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding the Census.
26. E-mail received May 12, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Sustainable Jersey Press Conference Cancellation.
27. E-mail received May 12, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Pension Workshops / Mayors Fax Advisory.
28. E-mail received May 13, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Several Mayors Letters.
29. E-mail received May 14, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding an Updated Invitation to Attend Mayor's Roundtable on June 1, 2010.
30. E-mail received May 14, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding BPU Block Grant Applications.
31. Program notice received May 17, 2010, from the Morris County League of Municipalities featuring Keynote Speaker Rodney Frelinghuysen regarding Washington and Picatinny Update.
32. E-mail received May 17, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Grant Applications – Revised Session Date Correction.
33. E-mail received May 18, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding West Windsor OPMA.
34. E-mail received May 19, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Three Mayors Letters.
35. E-mail received May 20, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Magazine Articles.
36. E-mail received May 20, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding New Jersey Municipalities Magazine.
37. E-mail received May 20, 2010, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding PBA et. al. v. New Jersey.
38. E-mail received May 10, 2010, from Department of Community Affairs regarding NJ Downtown Revitalization & Management Institute Session June 21-22, 2010.
39. E-mail received May 17, 2010, from the Department of Community Affairs regarding GovConnect Update: May 17, 2010.
40. E-mail received May 19, 2010, from Downtown New Jersey regarding FYI Notice from Downtown NJ.
41. Correspondence received from the County of Morris Planning Board regarding a proposal to grant an easement to Cross County property to Constellation Energy, BL 5, Lot 1, Mt. Olive Township.
42. E-mail received May 18, 2010, from the Morris County Tourism Bureau regarding “Mark your Calendar.”
43. Application received May 20, 2010, from Hawkins, Delafield & Wood LLP regarding the Musconetcong Sewerage Authority, 2010 Environmental Infrastructure Trust Financing.
44. Fax received May 12, 2010, from Comcast regarding notification to customers about service.
45. Fax received May 21, 2010, from First Energy regarding communications concerning JCP&L utilities in reference to variances, subdivision, acquisition, expansion of or the development of property.
President Tobey: We have 45 pieces of Correspondence. Does anyone on Council wish to discuss anything? Seeing none, we are up to Ordinances for Public Hearing.
ORDINANCES FOR PUBLIC HEARING
President Tobey: I open the hearing to the public on:
Ord. #14-2010 Ordinance Amending the Mount Olive Township Municipal Code Establishing Chapter 215 Article IV Entitled “Mailbox Construction.”
President Tobey: Does anyone from the public wish to be heard? Seeing none, Mr. Roman, would you please move that?
Mr. Roman: I move for adoption and Final passage of Ord. #14-2010.
Mrs. Perkins: Second.
President Tobey: Thank you. It has been moved and seconded. Any Council discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Tobey: Ordinance #14-2010 is passed on second reading , and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption as required by law. I open the hearing to the public on Ord. #15-2010, entitled:
Ord. #15-2010 Refunding Bond Ordinance Providing for the Funding of an Emergency Temporary Appropriation Previously Adopted to Provide for the Payment of Amounts Owing to Taxpayers for Taxes Levied by the Township of Mount Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey, Appropriating $600,000 Therefor and Authorizing the Issuance of $600,000 Bonds or Notes of the Township for Financing the Cost Thereof. PDF Ordinance NO ACTION (continued to 6/15/2010)
ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING – (2 nd reading June 15, 2010)
President Tobey: We're up to Ordinances for First Reading. Second Reading is June 14, 2010. Ord. #16-2010, entitled:
Ord.#16-2010 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive to Reduce Fees for Photocopies and CD's Pursuant to Section 102-1, Subsections E and F, and Section 102-5, Subsection B, of the Code of the Township of Mount Olive.
President Tobey: Mr. Walsh, would you please move that Ordinance?
Mr. Walsh: Yes, I move that Ord. #16-2010 to be introduced by title and passed on first reading and that a meeting be held on June 15, 2010 at 7:00 p.m. at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mount Olive, NJ for a public hearing consideration of said reading and passage of said ordinance and that the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available such ordinance in accordance with the requirements of law.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Tobey: Thank you. It's been moved and seconded. Any Council discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call, please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS AGENDA:
Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are considered to be routine and non-controversial by the Township Council and will be approved by one motion (one vote). There will be no separate discussion or debate on each of these resolutions except for the possibility of brief clarifying statements that may be offered. If one or more Council member requests, any individual resolution on the Consent Agenda may be removed from the Consent Agenda List and acted on separately.
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Endorsing and Supporting Governor Chris Christie's Proposal to Place a 2.5% CAP on Annual Property Tax Increases and Further Endorsing the Governor's Plan to Initiate Financial Reforms on the State and Local Levels of Government. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Execution of a Stipulation of Settlement in Connection with the Matter Entitled Township of Mount Olive v. Bramhall , Docket Number MRS-L-1093-10. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Settlement in Connection with the Tax Appeal Entitled K-Land No. 51 LLC v. Mount Olive Township . PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council, Township of Mount Olive Regarding Shared Service for Fire Inspections with Chester Borough. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Amending the 2010 Temporary Budget for all Funds. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Approving Mount Olive Child Care & Learning Center to Make Certain Exterior Improvements to the Existing Facility. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Professional Services Agreement with Van Cleef Engineering Associates for Engineering Services in Connection with the Resurfacing of Wolfe Road. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Amendment of a Previously Adopted Resolution of April 13, 2010 to Decrease the Payment to William Stothoff for the State Required 72 Hour Constant Flow Test for Turkey Brook Well #2. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Tax Collector to Prepare and Mail Estimated Tax Bills in Accordance with P.L. 1994 Chapter 72. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Awarding a Contract to Petersons Tree Service for Tree Removal, Tree Trimming and Stump Grinding Services.
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Endorsing and Supporting Approval of a NJDOT Grant to the County of Morris for the Improvement of the High Bridge Branch Railroad in Mount Olive and Roxbury Townships.
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive RE: Funding of Ambulance Squads for the Balance of 2010 and 2011 and Referendum Question. - REMOVED
President Tobey: We are up to Consent Resolutions. We have 11 listed. Does anyone on Council wish to move any to Non Consent? Seeing none, Mr. Perkins, would you be so kind?
Mr. Perkins: Yes, I move Consent Resolutions #1 through #11.
President Tobey: Thank you, I'll second that. Does anyone from the public wish to be heard on any of the Consent Resolutions listed? Seeing none, any Council discussion?
PUBLIC PORTION ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS - none
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
Mrs. Labow: Yes, that one is removed from the list, right?
President Tobey: Yes.
Mrs. Lashway: Number 12 is removed and number three is amended.
Mrs. Labow: Number three is amended and 12 is …okay, so this one still says 12.
Mrs. Lashway: You did not get an amended agenda.
Mrs. Labow: So it's one through 11.
President Tobey: Yes.
Mr. Greenbaum: With three being amended.
Mrs. Labow: I think I heard that one thanks Rob. Three is amended and 12 is removed.
Mrs. Lashway: I'm sorry, it's number two.
President Tobey: Number two is being amended.
Mrs. Labow: Two, two is amended.
President Tobey: Anyone else on Council? Seeing none, Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL – passed with the exception of Mr. Perkins who voted no on number one.
RESOLUTIONS NON-CONSENT - none
PUBLIC PORTION ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS - none
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS - none
1. Approval of a Peddler's Permit for Frank Gallo for Hot Dog Vending at Flanders Park.
2. Bill List. PDF Bill List
President Tobey: We're up to Motions. We have two listed this evening. Mr. Mania, would you please move them?
Mr. Mania: I move for approval of a Peddler's Permit for Frank Gallo for Hot Dog Vending at Flanders Park and the Bill List.
Raymond Perkins: Second.
President Tobey: Thank you, it's been moved and seconded, any discussion? Any questions on the Bill List from anyone in the public? Seeing none, Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL – Passed with the exception of Mrs. Labow who voted no on the Bill List.
President Tobey: Moving on we're up to Administrative reports. Mr. Sohl and Mayor?
Mr. Sohl: I would just like to thank the Council for approving the shared service agreement which is essentially a trial agreement at this point with Chester and thank Fred Detoro, Jr. who was here before, for working that out.
President Tobey: Thank you Mr. Sohl.
Mayor Scapicchio: Phil…
President Tobey: Yes, Mayor…
Mayor Scapicchio: Two things, short… briefly. I think we all get these residential sales reports on a monthly basis. And over the past few months, if you've been noticing the sale prices of the homes in Mount Olive Township they are actually selling for more than the assessed value and in some instances, for a significant amount. Second, 200 International Drive, 65,000 square feet has been leased. A long term leased to a high tech company who is actually relocating here in Mount Olive Township. They have a facility in Carlisle Pennsylvania, one in Massachusetts, and one in Hackettstown. They are closing those plants and they're moving all of the facilities here in Town. We often hear about companies moving out to consolidate elsewhere. Here's an example of where one is coming into Mount Olive.
Mr. Perkins: Excellent news Mayor, good job.
Mr. Greenbaum: We have one big building that still needs to get some consolidation…
Mayor Scapicchio: Baby steps…
President Tobey: Thank you Mayor.
Mr. Roman: Mr. Mayor, do you know if any new jobs are going to be coming with that?
Mayor Scapicchio: Alex, I don't know the answer to that. I mean… I would guess there would be; because I'm not sure that everybody would just sort of relocate but I could find that out for you.
President Tobey: Okay, any Old Business, Mrs. Labow?
Mrs. Labow: On the… for the budget, I guess this would go under old business. I heard last week, after our last Council meeting that another one of our employees was told that they were going to be reduced to part time status and we didn't discuss that at the Council meeting the night before. I was wondering how did that come about?
President Tobey: I had some communications with Council members, okay and as we all know, I have the right such as you and every other Council member does to communicate with fellow Council. It was my understanding, based upon those conversations that there was a consensus to bring the tax burden down even lower and with that, I informed the Mayor and the Mayor took it from there.
Mrs. Labow: I have a question for Mr. DiYanni… Dominic…so I agree Mr. Tobey, whenever we have a question, you know… something we want to propose we'll talk to our fellow colleagues and garnish support or you know, talk about it, find out pros and cons. However we don't act on it until after it's discussed in a public format. So as I understand it, then after the Council meeting… I don't know if Dominic is paying attention. Is Rob distracting you?
Mr. DiYanni: No.
Mrs. Labow: After the Council meeting as I understand it, Mr. Tobey just said he discussed it with a couple of Council members and directed the Mayor to act on it and it had not been discussed in a public format. Should that have been discussed before it was acted on?
Mr. DiYanni: Well, Colleen it all depends um…you know I don't want to opine right now without knowing all the full facts. This could have been an Administrative type of function or decision which rests with the Mayor to make such decisions but um…I don't want to opine as to as to any violation…
Mrs. Labow: That's fair enough, so then for the next meeting…
Mr. DiYanni: If the Council wants to direct Mr. Dorsey to look into it and opine he can but…
Mr. Greenbaum: Here's the deal Colleen.
Mrs. Labow: Yes.
Mr. Greenbaum: The Mayor has the right to remove employees, irrespective of Council discussion. So if Mr. Tobey went to the Mayor and said, “look, in the budget I don't believe that there's going to be funding,” whether there is or there isn't, the Mayor can act upon… or for whatever reason the Mayor can act upon and say, you know what it's a non union position, I can eliminate the funding. And for this reason Dave may have said, you know what, if it's coming down the pike anyway, then I'm going to act on it because I don't… I'm not sure it's going to be in the budget or he could have said at that point, I'm not going to act on it until there's formal action but I think that the decision ultimately was made by the Mayor based up the information that he had. So there wasn't any Council decision which actually… which actually had the action taken from it. It was a decision made by the Mayor ultimately as an Administrative matter. So I believe that it is… from my perspective it's completely appropriate. Even if we had… it had never come up, the Mayor within his discretion could have said, I'm not going to fund this particular position. So I don't really see the issue.
Mrs. Labow: No, I just wanted to clarify it because the question had been asked of me several times but Mr. Tobey just said that he had proposed it to the Mayor so that's why I just want to get clarification.
President Tobey: No, no… I had an understanding of a consensus to reduce the tax burden and with that I informed the Mayor.
Mr. Greenbaum: The Mayor could have come back and said I don't care what your consensus says. I'm not going to eliminate the position or I'm going to… or had there been no discussion between Mr. Tobey and the Mayor, the Mayor could have said, you know what, I'm just not going to continue to fund this position so… I don't see the issue. Ultimately in this particular case…
Mrs. Labow: I'm not saying there's an issue. I'm asking the question if there, you know, what the procedure is, so…
Mr. Greenbaum: The procedure is, the Mayor cannot fund… he doesn't have to spend money we give him.
Mrs. Labow: No, I understand that.
Mr. Greenbaum: He makes the personnel decisions.
Mrs. Labow: That I agree with.
Mr. Greenbaum: That's all.
Mrs. Labow: Thank you.
President Tobey: Thank you, any other Old Business, and any New Business? Mr. Greenbaum…
Mr. Greenbaum: There are two issues Bill that have been raised with me by taxpayers in the municipality and they're both DPW related. I would like to pass them along to Tim Quinn. One actually may be a police department issue. The first issue was raised by an individual who lives in and around Flanders Road. There was guard rail that was put in on Flanders Road near Turkey Brook Park. It may have been by the County, it may have been by the gas company, whoever was doing the restoration and it is rusty. It's the only rusty guard rail that I have seen. I don't know what happened, it's brand new and it shouldn't be rusty and it looks terrible, so somebody should look into that issue. The second issue which I guess is more of a police issue, which has been raised before since I've been sitting on Council, relates to Glendale Road and the parking on both sides. A resident came to me and told me he believes it's a safety hazard. When people are playing at Dan Jordan Field, the parking on both sides of the road creates a very narrow passage way for vehicles and that perhaps the police department could once again look at that issue to determine whether or not during certain hours, certain days that parking be limited to one side of the street so that emergency vehicles could pass or two cars could pass at the same time. Those are the two issues that were raised with me.
Mr. Sohl: Chief, you got it?
President Tobey: Thank you, Mrs. Labow then Mr. Walsh.
Mrs. Labow: I just wanted to say to Mr. Greenbaum … the bridge that's under the road that goes to what is it… Drakesdale Road… that's all rusty, that's all rust so I guess that's the way they make them now.
Mr. Greenbaum: That's what I thought too, that the rust was part of the process but as I've driven around and as it was pointed out to me, it's a brand new guard rail and it's already rusty. If you look at other guard rail that's been put in…. it's not rusty.
Mrs. Labow: Maybe it wasn't coated properly. I also want to thank Mr. Sohl. I had contacted him a couple weeks ago about a lot of signs. I know we had that ongoing problem with the signs around Town. I was concerned, I was at the light on 206 by the A&P and the wind was blowing so hard and I was afraid the signs were actually going to take flight and go right into traffic. I also saw there were a lot of directional signs now cropping up for real estate agents, directing people to houses and when Bernie Guenther was here…
Mr. Greenbaum: We try to keep at it.
Mrs. Labow: I know…
Mr. Sohl: It's a never ending battle. It's everywhere; I mean it's in Hackettstown…
Mrs. Labow: I know it's everyplace but we're getting the one side done and then all of the sudden now we got new signs showing up.
Mr. Sohl: I pick them up myself sometimes.
Mrs. Labow: I know. Thank you.
Mr. Roman: Bill, if I could jump onto that? If I recall there is no fine in our ordinance regarding that.
Mr. Sohl: There is a fine.
Mr. Roman: I don't believe there's a fine on … when you put the signs in… if that's the case…
Mr. Sohl: I'll check again with Frank Wilpert Jr.
Mrs. Labow: We looked that up the one day and there was no fine, but I think we should have a fine.
Mr. Roman: I think this is something we should revisit because they're just going to keep popping up. I can see their motivation by somebody. Oh, they took my sign; I'm going to put it back up.
President Tobey: We have some members in the audience… Mr. Wilpert?
Mr. Sohl: Catherine
President Tobey: Good evening.
Mrs. Natafalusy: There is a section in the ordinance that prohibits directional signs. You are allowed open house signs on the day of the open house and directional signs but other than that, directional signs are not permitted. I understand that there are certain houses that are off main roads and realtors try and direct the people in there but the ordinance doesn't permit that. It's a losing battle. We have sent letters to realtors, Caldwell Banker, Remax, whatever, for years, saying, this is what's permitted, this is what's not permitted; please understand this is what our ordinance is but…
Mayor Scapicchio: Cathy, correct me if I'm wrong but most of that happens on Saturdays and Sundays.
Mrs. Natafalusy: Exactly but then there are ones that just keep them out all the time. There is a section in the ordinance that if you're in violation of the ordinance that a summons can be issued and there's a fine of, I think it's $500.00 a day up to whatever… so there is a fine that can… there is a summons that can be issued.
Mr. Roman: If I recall... like I said, I will re-read that Ordinance but I was particularly… I wasn't necessarily talking about the realtor signs but the ones that pop up for cash for gold…
Mrs. Natafalusy: Those are hard. Those are really hard to track down the people. They will say… “We buy your gold” and then there is a number. Realtors are easy because you can call the real estate office and they'll respond.
Mr. Roman: When is the last time we issued a summons for a sign like that?
Mrs. Natafalusy: For a realtor sign?
Mr. Roman: Or any kind of sign that violated the ordinance.
Mrs. Natafalusy: Actually our Zoning officer did issue something to a gentleman who was offering baseball lessons. He lived in Long Valley. We got his name and that was about a year ago or a year and a half ago. It's really, a losing battle. It's really tough. The signs pop up every weekend. We can go down there and pick them up but it's hard getting in touch with a telephone number.
Mr. Roman: I think with some research a telephone number is identified to a business, a business is identified to an owner. And if there is a $500.00 fine, I know if I got a $500.00 fine for putting up a sign for my business, I think that would preclude me from ever having put up a sign again but I know we only picked them up six or seven months ago and there are just going to pop back up again.
Mrs. Natafalusy: We pick them up all the time. I'll tell you that the gentleman that was offering baseball lessons, we issued a summons and this year that sign was back up again. I saw it, so…
Mr. Roman: Then I think it's time for another summons.
Mrs. Natafalusy: I know, I understand, but I'm just saying it's tough to keep up. We try our best.
Mr. Perkins: Got to generate some revenue here. Let's get the summonses moving.
Mrs. Natafalusy: We try our best.
President Tobey: Mr. Walsh then Mrs. Labow.
Mr. Walsh: Just two quick points. On the guardrails, I just wanted to bring up, I have not seen those guardrails but I have in my new construction background… in past years, I have had experience where they put up those new fangled rusty guardrails. They're supposed to look cool and people call and complain so they very well may be rusted ones but just keep that in mind. Its sounds like you know that all ready. Signs, I'll tell you from my experience in real estate too…a lot of realtors are from all over and you'll never ever get your arms around it completely because somebody from Chester may list one here, somebody from Rockaway will list one here, somebody from …. You know, you'll be at it forever. I can appreciate what you're saying. You're right we do… you can just go around and take them all up. It's probably the best thing but you're going to be after this for years. It's…
Mr. Perkins: At $500.00 a pop, there you go.
Mr. Walsh: That is pretty… hefty.
President Tobey: Thank you, Mrs. Labow?
Mrs. Labow: For the signs on like some of the more popular corners, like the one that I mentioned that I saw two weeks ago. I wonder… not that we want to put more signs up but perhaps if we did have some kind of a posting that signs are not permitted, subject to fine.
President Tobey: It's a losing battle; you're never going to win this battle.
Mayor Scapicchio: I propose we eliminate political signs moving forward.
President Tobey: Okay, any other new business? Moving on to Legal Matters.
Mr. DiYanni: No report.
Recreation Liaison Report - none
Board of Health Report - none
Mr. Perkins: Thank you Mr. President, just a couple quickies. The Board of Health Meeting was last Wednesday, business as usual. We had pretty close to a full quorum.
Planning Board Report
Mr. Mania: The Planning Board has undertaken its periodic reexamination report of the Master Plan in developing regulations. They are working on… I have a report here, the whole report if anyone or Council members would like to take a look. Hopefully we may be able to adopt it on June 10 th .
Open Space Committee Report – none
Legislative Committee Report – none
Pride Committee Report – none
Board of Education Liaison Report
Mr. Roman: I attended last night's Board of Education Meeting. A couple of nice things, the student that had the highest HESPA awards, were recognized and I was quite pleased to see that. I believe that four of them got a perfect 400 in Math and one of them was Mr. Werner's son. Listed on resignations and retirements were about 20 members. I asked a question of the Board, whether that the number of retirees were they aware of it before they introduced the budget. They were not aware of that many members. I also asked if they knew what the new revised breakage would be. They were not aware of that new number. I also asked if all of those positions were being filled, they were not aware if they were going to fill all of those positions. There was a Resolution to adopt Council recommendations for the $2 million dollar cut. It was approved on a six to three vote and that is it.
President Tobey: Thank you, I spoke to Mr. Higgins this morning about the number of people retiring and based upon the action that the Board takes, he indicated that it is a possible significant amount of breakage that they can recognize. Even if they hire 50% of the people back and they just accept the breakage so we'll see how that plays. Thank you, Mr. Roman.
Lake/Environment Issues Committee
Mr. Perkins: The lake cleanup took place on the 15 th . There was a pleasure that I actually picked up a lot less than I've picked up in the last couple of years. So, for whatever reason it seems to be staying a lot cleaner around the lake which is a good thing.
Safety Committee Liaison – none
Economic Development Committee Report – none
Library Board Liaison – none
Senior Citizen Liaison
Mr. Perkins: I'm not sure; I don't think Mr. Mania was around for the CD Kiwanis Key Club. As you know I am a Kiwani member. We did sponsor the Senior Prom on May 14 th . If my memory serves me correctly we had about 120 some odd seniors that were there, so we had a great time.
Community Development Revenue Sharing – none
President Tobey: Any other Council reports? Okay, seeing none, we are up to the second Public Portion. Does anyone from the public wish to be heard on any matter? Good evening Mr. Spitzer.
Mark Spitzer: Hi, Mark Spitzer, Chief of Police, Budd Lake resident. I felt the need to address some comments that were made at the last public meeting by some of the members of Council. The first was in regard to Mr. Mania's request to layoff two Police officers. While I disagree with the plan to do so, I do not disagree with his duty to protect the tax payer and therefore dissect the budget and make his recommendations. I've always taken my marching orders and delivered the best product I could with what we are granted in the Police department. The reason that I am here today is to address the rather cavalier attitude that came across during the discussions when probed by another Council member as to how he formulated the specific plan of laying off two officers. I'm not sure if Mr. Mania read my explanation of the comparison of our workforce to Montville's. I know I never received any further inquires but to your comments and response to the Council member, while laughing I might add, that we could lay off ten officers and that would be fine with you, that was an inappropriate comment…
Mr. Mania: I didn't make the comment first. The comment was made by Mr. Greenbaum.
President Tobey: Excuse me Mr. Mania, please let Mr. Spitzer continue.
Mr. Mania: Okay.
Chief Spitzer: That we lay off the ten officers, I thought that was an inappropriate comment because you haven't done any research with that regard. You certainly have not consulted with me. Laying off ten officers goes as deep as to the hiring of Detective Officer Casaletto who has been diligently serving this Township for eight years. Faced with the tough choices that are being made these days, it is not healthy to be nonchalant while discussing people's livelihoods. It matters more than you know and more than you bother to consider. I have known you for many years Mr. Mania and I believe your remarks were unfortunate but I would expect that you would not want them to be so flippant. I ask that you consider the people behind the remarks that you make and I can tell you that your words have had a dramatic effect on our Police department. The type of service that you choose to provide to your constituents is your choice but when you represented to the audience last week that you spoke to me about Montville's Police department and presented facts that we should have the same number of officers, that's not accurate. The fact is that we are not the same as Montville. I told you that during our budget hearing. A few facts may prove that point. In 2009 we had over 100 reported assaults which equates to three times that of Montville. We investigated 100 burglaries which is five times that of Montville and we responded to over 200 domestic violence calls which is 100% more than Montville did. We have three times the number of narcotics cases with 175 instances. I chose these particular statistics because we were called there. They're not self initiated, and therefore trumped up charges. There're statistics that suggest that they're true responses. Most disturbing to me in listening to the Council meeting from…not the last one but the one before that, was the banter that went on when Mr. Walsh discussed his flawed reasoning for layoffs and his representation that somehow I agreed with him. Mr. Walsh, I have met with you on two occasions. Once in a diner and once in my office, and on neither occasion did I agree with any of the thoughts that you espoused at the last meeting. When you publicly said, and I'll quote, “we are not here to give out cheap tickets to poor people who drive cheap cars and that's what we are doing here in Mount Olive” to whom were you referring in the Police department?
Mr. Walsh: Well, right here in these meetings… is it okay for me to respond?
President Tobey: Please…
Mr. Walsh: Okay, sure…right here in these meetings we had… and believe me…well first of all, before, before I answer I do want to say, I can appreciate you coming here tonight, I really do and I can appreciate you standing up for your coworkers and the people that work for you and I respect that and as I've said to you and publicly many times, I think we have one of the best Police forces around.
Chief Spitzer: That's not what you said last week.
Mr. Walsh: Uummmm… that's…
Chief Spitzer: That's not.
Mr. Walsh: No, I didn't say that last week. I said it many times but I didn't say it last week. I'm not sure what you mean by that.
Chief Spitzer: Well, I'll go on. You said, “ I feel for these people who they abuse and use and take money from just so they can keep their jobs.”
Mr. Walsh: Okay, now you're jumping around. I'll finish the first…I'll address the first one and then we'll get to the second.
Chief Spitzer: Okay.
Mr. Walsh: Right here in the meeting okay, the Court people were in here. I said, what kind of tickets are we giving out of these thousands of tickets and she's like, “Oh it's a lot of… it's all”… and then of course you never get a straight answer for exact numbers and I appreciate you giving some good ones tonight but thousands of tickets are minor violations. And paperwork etc…
Chief Spitzer: Four thousand, nine hundred tickets are what we gave out last year. 13,000 motor vehicle stops and we issued 4,900 tickets.
Mr. Walsh: Okay, okay…thank you…okay.
Chief Spitzer: I would give you a direct answer any time you ask.
Mr. Walsh: I'm sure you would.
Chief Spitzer: If I don't know the answer, I would tell you I don't know it and I will find out.
Mr. Walsh: Okay, okay...okay…um but I personally, I just don't think it's appropriate to be going around, giving out so many minor violations and I can tell you right now, there are people out there, thousands of them that feel like that's the case, day in and day out here in Mount Olive and all over the State. They feel kind of like they're being targeted all the time. I mean, didn't we just settle a $25,000.00 harassment case where we had to pay someone for one of these minor stops, one of these routine…you know…by stopping these people and doing this it's like you're creating more trouble than…
Chief Spitzer: Which violations would you have us not enforce?
Mr. Walsh: No….ha ha ha ha ha
Chief Spitzer: Isn't that a valid question?
Mr. Walsh: I guess it is. I guess it is. You know when and …first of all I never said “do not enforce any violations.” You're kind of taking what I'm saying and turning it into much more than what I'm trying to…
Chief Spitzer: Let me just read your words.
President Tobey: Excuse me, Mr. Spitzer if I may, Mr. Walsh, if Mr. Spitzer would like to finish and then you want to comment then, instead of going back and forth.
Mr. Walsh: Okay.
Chief Spitzer: And you continued to say that “they could drop to seven per shift which we just wouldn't have as many cheap tickets given out.” I'd ask you what school of management in regarding police management have you gone to? Where do those ideas originate from? I mean the Council is a Board. It's a legislative body. I'm in an executive position; we enforce the laws that are made in the legislative branch of government. Those laws come from the legislative branch. We have no choice but to enforce the laws that your branch delivers to us. Regarding the school resource officer program, you stated, “you throw Police in the school, what are they going to do? They're going to validate their jobs and find things wrong.” On what do you base that statement?
Mr. Walsh: Well didn't you come in here and say that once the person was put into the position that the violations went up?
Chief Spitzer: No, I didn't say it in here. In response to our budget hearing you asked me if…
Mr. Walsh: I remember you lifting your hand up and going …I'm sorry.
Chief Spitzer: That's not where it happened. I can tell you what happened. I told you that you should look at the statistics that we reported to you as changing at the time we put a Police officer into the school. We had a number of calls to the High School and to the Middle School that are measured by a computer card punch. And I said I expect that number to go up when you put a Police officer in school because more people approach a Police officer when they're sitting there in front of you than they do having to find a phone and make a phone call and call a Police officer into the school. If there is an officer there, just as though if you had a walking beat at the Walmart, you would have a lot more calls at the Walmart because people would walk up to the officer and say “hey by the way, I think my car might have been broken in to. Or by the way, I think that pet over there may be locked in the car, it shouldn't be.” That's the response that I gave you but it wasn't given here. It was given in a written response. I question if you think that this Town would be safe enough without those officers. I go back to Mr. Mania where the number of ten officers came from.
Mr. Mania: I said two. Let's not keep up ten. I said two. A comment was made by another Council member that said ten.
Chief Spitzer: And I believe you said, “Ten would be fine with me.”
Mr. Mania: Joshing, absolutely.
Chief Spitzer: I appreciate that. I am professionally concerned as the Chief of Police that the proper level of police service will be maintained, but I am also personally concerned as a resident that my town is a safe one in which to raise my family. This year this political body has decided that our level of service should be lowered to reduce costs. It is your job to define that level. I appreciate the difficult job that it is. I have worked my entire career at building this department up. I have not done so alone but it is rather a goal that our whole agency and the people I work with. It is your collective choice as a Council and as a Government Body to lower that bar and to reduce services, it's not mine. If I were you, I would feel guilty about that decision; but to attack the performance of our police officers in order to make it more palatable to you, means that it is you that are making things up, not the quality officers we have working for us here. Your comments Mr. Walsh were a disgrace to my Police officers. If you have information that anything has been contrived or made up, I'd ask that you report that to me. If you don't trust me as you've indicated that you don't trust the officers, please report that to the Morris County Prosecutor's Office. If there are no instances that you can report to solidify those disgraceful comments, then I believe an apology is in order. If there are, then again it's your duty to report them; it's mine to investigate them. No matter what you say, I will do my best to lead this excellent department in these difficult times and I ask that you would do the same and lead this community in the same way. For those Council people on this body and elsewhere who have performed your all too difficult duties, in these very difficult times, without disrespecting our Township workers, I thank you for that deference. I thank you all for your time.
President Tobey: Mr. Spitzer, Mr. Spitzer, I believe that Mr. Walsh would like to respond but I'd like to ask a question afterwards if I may but Mr. Walsh, please.
Mr. Walsh: I just would like to say; I do appreciate once again, you standing up for your officers. I think you definitely have overblown some of what I've said and um… I just think you're in shock to see an Elected Official stand up to your fraternity. I mean, it's just something that people aren't use to seeing and you're not the only group to say that. I mean, I really…and I firmly believe that. You're just literally, can't believe someone would get up here and say something that disagrees with the head of, the Chief of the Police department. Um… I do believe that. Um… and as I've stated to you publicly before and privately, that I do think very highly of our Police force and for you to say otherwise is really disingenuous. That's where I stand.
Chief Spitzer: I think you're wrong.
President Tobey: Mr. Roman, did you have a question?
Mr. Roman: Chief, going back to your comments about the SRO officers, I for one, I think it's extremely beneficial in the schools. I think they provide a service that is many times immeasurable by statistics. I'm pretty sure they prevent a lot of stuff from happening if they were not there. I understand that…and correct me if I'm wrong, that it's your intention or maybe your plan to maybe withdraw them from the schools and if so I would very much like to see you reconsider or at least… and I'm sure you didn't come about that decision lightly. As you have stated before that you need officers patrolling the streets to keep us safe and trust me, I see what comes, I see the press releases, I hear what's out there , I know there's a lot of… for lack of a better word, crap out there. I think the schools are also a patrol. I think we've got to make sure that we keep an officer in there.
Chief Spitzer: I think that would be ideal to keep an officer in there. I don't think it's in the works with the staffing levels. I agree that it's ideal. The decision to put Police officers into the schools was not a decision that anybody on the Police department made by themselves. The decision was made in conjunction with the “then” Mayor, with the “then” Council. It was a joint discussion, it was a decision that we would never have gone forward with, without the approval and the direction of the Council or the Mayor at that time.
President Tobey: Mr. Spitzer, I would ask if the officers can't be there full time if you can…you know your department better than I do. Maybe there's a way to incorporate into the routine or the patrol, officers to maybe stop by. They may not be there full time but maybe make it part of the process and at least have their presence there whether it's for an hour or a half hour. Maybe that might be a solution. I just thought of that and I just wanted to share that with you.
Chief Spitzer: Mr. Tobey, since probably about… I'm going to guess around 1990 or so there has been a thing called SNAP, The State Wide Narcotics Action Plan. Part of that plan is a directed…I've talked to you in the past about directed patrols, where we find a trouble spot and we put in a directive patrol and the officers frequent there more often. All of the schools are part of the SNAP program and will remain under directive patrol. That means, during their shift, officers are designated to go to all of the schools. Not just the High School and the Middle School but to go to all of the schools and interact as much as they possibly can. That's one thing that Mr. Reynolds has invited us into the school. In the past we've had some discussions with prior Administration that in the lower schools that the Police officers were not necessarily welcome to come in. Not that we were not welcome, they thought it would cause alarm. Mr. Reynolds invites us into the schools so our Police officers can dismount from their patrol car anytime and go in and check in at the office and then walk through the cafeteria, go to the gymnasium or whatever and interact with the students. Certainly when we make the move to take them out of the High School and the Middle School… certainly that will be part of the program.
President Tobey: That's great to hear…thank you, Mr. Greenbaum?
Mr. Greenbaum: I think I would be remiss if I just didn't say something here and that would be; Pat, I whole heartedly disagree with your comments. I said so at the time they were made. You made them on two different occasions and I think there is a difference between standing up to a Police department where you believe that there can be a reduction for tax purposes and the comments which were made, which really do impugn the integrity of the Police department which I thought was inappropriate but you know, I certainly as I have said all along… I support everyone's right to say what's on their mind although I don't agree with it and just for my basic understanding, Police work is very difficult work and a lot of the stops that are made for speeding and for failure to yield and failure to stop, result in those arrests that also include heroin possession, gun possession and that, an officer's job out on the road, really is his tool to stop somebody who has violated the law and whether or not the cop, the Police officer is going to write a violation is within the discretion of the Police officer and there is no mandate that…I'm sure by the Municipality to generate funds as a result of the stops but ultimately, that's what happens and it's not done in the manner that is inconsistent with any other Municipality or any other City, Town in New Jersey or in the United States for that matter. The comments that John made with respect to the ten officers that was in response to my questioning as to how you would reach two…
Mr. Mania: Exactly.
Mr. Greenbaum: And it was rather in a joking fashion and I sit up here and joke about it but it did highlight the issue which was, before we start cutting Police officers, let's come to an educated decision as to why we are reducing the Police officers, simply not to reduce tax dollars if those Police officers are needed. In fact many of the facts which were brought up by the Police Chief today, highlight the fact that I brought up, which is you can't simply compare a Town because of the size of its population to our Town because we have different highway systems, we have different apartment complexes, we have different shopping centers, we have a different crime statistical base. Ultimately, I probably believe that we could stand to reduce the size of our Police force and I have had many discussions with Colleen about it over time and how do we get there and it's one of those areas that is so important to the Township because I'm sure that everyone that sits up here agrees that public safety is really what we provide to this Township and that maybe the best way to go about reducing the size of the Police force, if that's what we're going to do, is through attrition and it's kind of like a touchy feely process where you get to a point where you're no longer providing a level of service then you have to look at, maybe it's time to start adding people because we've gotten too low. So, you know... it was an unfortunate discussion. I thought some of the comments, not yours in particular, although it did highlight a point I was making and I'm sure that Chief Spitzer understood your comment as being that but I thought other of the comments really did go beyond the pale and it troubled me and I didn't just want to let it go.
Chief Spitzer: My point in a nut shell is that I don't think that I'm ever going to sit before any Council…I don't think the Council is going to say, “Hey, I think you guys need some more Police officers” and I'm going to say, “I don't think so, I think we have enough.” I think that's just the nature of the game. I do think we're understaffed. Not understaffed, I do think that we shouldn't reduce our staff. I'm a realist, I understand. Just because we're on a different side of the equation does not warrant that type of thing where you can say, you guys are making stuff up. That is the part that I wanted to address today.
President Tobey: Mr. Roman?
Mr. Roman: Chief, one last comment. When you get an opportunity if you could sent me or wish to copy Council on what the exact ramifications are, what kind of detriment it has to patrol, based on the upcoming new numbers of Police officers if you kept the officers in the schools, how that would affect a day time patrol. Just so I can at least, you know be educated. Thank you.
President Tobey: Mrs. Labow?
Mrs. Labow: Thank you Mr. Tobey. Chief Spitzer, I just want to relay an incident that happened many, many years ago when I was on the Mount Olive Police Department's Crisis Response Team. That's where we had volunteer advocates from the Township that come and advocate for victims of domestic violence and it was in the middle of the night and I was called out and came up to the Police department and I can't go into details about the situation but I have to say that our Police officers went above and beyond and knowing it was a very traumatic experience for the children involved, they pitched in and bought pizzas for the family and when they brought the mom and the kids back they couldn't actually believe that the Police officers actually pitched in and bought them a meal and that's the kind of thing most people don't even hear about you know. It's like our department cares very much about the community and they recognize when people are in stressful situations and my experience has been that our officers always go the extra like 100 yards. It's actually not just a little bit and I do want to thank you for that very much because I'm very proud of our Police department as you know and I think you guys are doing a great job, thank you.
President Tobey: Thank you Mr. Spitzer. Anyone else from the public wish to be heard on any matters? Yes sir…
Tom Tarn, Crease Road, Budd Lake: First of all, I apologize to the Chief. I was a little late; I was out running my TNR traps tonight. I missed the beginning of his comments and I wish I had been here to hear that because I loved the end of it. 37.7 % of the stops generate a ticket. That's crazy! That number should be over 50%. Based on the number of people that don't use their turn signals, do California rolling stops through stop signs, turn around to do right turns on red when traffic is coming. No they are not giving out an excessive number of tickets, okay. Bar me from creating a suicide, I'd like to see them give out more because I think the people on the roads today are undertrained in terms of driving. They have no etiquette, they have no courtesy, and they're downright dangerous. I almost got hit down at the intersection just getting to this meeting tonight because somebody decided well there was five extra feet so that they could cut across and make a turn. This is crazy. If we need Police officers to do that, then we need to do it because now you're making everybody safe. I think we beat the comparison to Montville to death and there is no comparison. Mount Olive is unique in the fact that it sits on the intersection of Route 80, Route 206, Route 46, close enough to 31 to be counted… so there's a lot of traffic going through this area from outside the State, inside the State. It's the main corridor for traffic from Pennsylvania, the Poconos, Northwest and Northeastern Pennsylvania to New York City so there is no comparison. Now, I don't know what the right number is okay, and I lived in Town long enough; almost 30 years that I've seen the good and the bad of the Police department and I can honestly say that the quality of the policing in this Town starting with Charlie Brown continued by Ed Katona and now it continues by Mark Spitzer is A++. Okay, so anybody that suggest otherwise needs their heads examined and I've met many of the officers informally. I even got stopped by one when I was taking the car over to get it inspected because it was past due and we had a nice conversation. She asked me about the packet of pills on the side of the seat. Thank god it was my vitamins but that's the kind of policing that we should have. As far as the High School and the Middle School goes, I don't know how you value presence and that's really what it is and the thing that's troubling the most to me is that the Daily Record just did this exposé, I guess a month or two months ago about gangs and gang violence in New Jersey and drugs in New Jersey and any efforts that we can make to get to these kids preamble… okay. We don't want to be reactive we want to be proactive so if it's a Police officer spending his day walking the halls of the school and picking up tid-bits of information or helping to keep kids from bullying somebody or whatever, that is an investment that is well worth spending for today, tomorrow and in the future. Unfortunately it's too easy for kids to get a hold of things, do things, there are too many ways that they can do it and they don't get that… I'll probably get killed for this one too. That authority figure from the families that make them fly strait and down the right road. They're left to figure it out for themselves. So if a Police officer is standing in a hallway and two or three kids are talking to him or her, that's an opportunity to reach a kid or two or three. And then they don't become problems down the road. I would ask everybody to think very seriously about that, if that includes Mr. Reynolds or whatever in terms of the schools saying, “No, we're not going to fund Policeman in the schools.” Tell him that's not acceptable because the residents and the citizens of the Town and the kids deserve that intervention. A couple questions, again I'm sorry I missed it. With the Resolution funding the Ambulance Squad for the balance of the year…did that come up? Is that added to the Budget?
Mayor Scapicchio: Yes.
Mr. Tarn: So we're not going to be looking somewhere else for $71,000? The construction work, to the Child Care and Learning Center; is that going to cost Mount Olive Township anything?
Mayor Scapicchio: No.
Mr. Sohl: No.
Mr. Tarn: Okay, thank you. The improvement to the High Bridge Branch Railroad, I was a little confused about that Resolution because it's titled, “Improvement of the High Bridge Branch Railroad,” but at the bottom it says, where it's to be resolved, it's called the High Bridge Branch Resurfacing Project. I'm not necessarily an expert on Railroads but is…
President Tobey: Mr. Sohl?
Mr. Sohl: It's the line that goes down to Toys R Us.
Mr. Tarn: Oh, I know what…
Mr. Sohl: What they're going to be doing is … in Railroad parliaments as I understand it, it's the stone that they put around the railroad ties?
Mr. Tarn: Uh huh.
Mr. Sohl: And that's there since…. There upgrading the railroad line but before somebody thinks there‘s going to be a hundred mile an hour trains going down there, they're not obviously.
Mr. Tarn: As long as they have good breaks.
Mr. Sohl: And what this Resolution does, it places no burden on us. It's merely an endorsement of the County's request to the State for money.
Mr. Tarn: I understand… I was just confused; they're called two different things. The Resolution says one and the project says another.
Mr. Sohl: That's the model they gave us.
Mr. Tarn: Okay, so it's the County again.
Mr. Sohl: Yes.
Mr. Tarn: Okay… you're off the hook, thank you.
President Tobey: Does anyone else from the public wish to be heard? Yes sir…
Scott Ireland, Eric Court, Flanders: Literally I have been out of the country for 12 days and it seems like I missed quite a lot, which leads me to my question. Back in December or so, the decision was made to televise these meetings. Put them on channel 21. I would have loved to have seen the last… the meetings the last few weeks. What's the status? When is that going to happen?
Mr. Sohl: That's going to happen, hopefully again, it will restart soon. What we ran into a problem with is the school's equipment has a built in mic. There was no way to get the audio from up here to the unit. We now got a price from the company that maintains the audio equipment that we use. They're going to run a line back, to the back of the room that can then be plugged into the camera. It will get the audio direct from these microphones.
Mr. Ireland: Okay.
Mayor Scapicchio: We're going to pay for that with money we get from cablevision.
Mr. Sohl: Yes, we just got $2,000.00 from Cablevision. That will go into our budget.
Mr. Ireland: Okay.
Mr. Sohl: The estimate was $400.00 to do what had to be done. It didn't make any sense to try and tape anything until we get this straightened out.
Mr. Ireland: Okay, thanks.
President Tobey: Okay, anyone else from the public? Any Council comments, closing comments? Mr. Roman?
Mr. Roman: It feels like a while ago but I recall when we had the union representatives here and we had a pretty much packed audience. I'd like to apologize to Miss Joann Lepre. In retrospect I felt that my questioning of her was a little bit harsh and kind of … just kind of took her off back. I know I called you afterwards but I felt since I made those remarks in public that I needed to at least apologize in public. That's it.
President Tobey: Mr. Perkins?
Mr. Perkins: Thank you Mr. President. First off I would like to obviously wish… a little ahead of time, Happy Memorial Day to everybody and to let you know, that this year's parade is “on.” We will be kicking off at 10:00 a.m. from CMS. It's always a nice march and we hope to see everybody out at the AVM for the ceremony. Chief, while you were up I didn't …I'm probably the only Council member I see that didn't have anything to say while you were up here. As you know, by reading through…by going through the Minutes you know that I was not in favor of losing any personnel. Having a military and as well as growing up with Police in different parts of my family, I have a real respect for Police officers. I also know that… that sea of blue is the only place you can go from one geography to another and they're always there to serve and protect. Quite frankly when I look at, and I don't pay so much attention to the press releases as I do from talking to officers and different jurisdictions as I travel around this great State of ours. There are some real issues and concerns out there. You guys are the first line of defense against me and harm and quite frankly there will never be enough of you out there. Thank you Mr. President.
President Tobey: Thank you, any other Council comments? Seeing none, I'll accept a motion to adjourn.
Motion was made and seconded, all in favor and none opposed, the meeting was adjourned at 8:12pm.
Phil Tobey, Council President
I, Lisa M. Lashway, Township Clerk of the Township of Mount Olive do hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes is a true and correct copy of the Minutes approved at a legally convened meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council duly held on June 29, 2010.
Lisa Lashway, Township Clerk