TOWNSHIP COUNCIL PUBLIC MEETING MINUTES
- January 31, 2012
The Public Meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council was called to Order at 7:26 pm by Council President Roman.
OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT ANNOUNCEMENT
Mrs. Lashway: According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate notice of this meeting has been given to the Daily Record. Notice has been posted at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mount Olive Township, New Jersey and notices were sent to those requesting the same.
Present: Mr. Nicastro, Mr. Roman, Mr. Walsh, Mrs. Labow, Mr. Ferrante
Absent: Mr. Mania, Mr. Perkins
Also Present: Sherry Maniscalco, CFO; Sean Canning, Business Administrator; Fred Semrau, Township Attorney; Lisa Lashway, Township Clerk; Mayor Rob Greenbaum
President Roman: We are up to Approval of Previous Minutes. Mr. Ferrante.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
January 17, 2012 CS, WS & PM (Mr. Perkins & Mr. Mania absent)
Mr. Ferrante: I move to approve the Minutes of January 17, 2012.
Mr. Walsh: Second.
President Roman: Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS/ORGANIZATIONS
- E-mail received January 13, 2012, from North Jersey RC&D regarding RC&D Update. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 26, 2012, from NJ Future Facts regarding Does New Jersey Have Room to Grow? PDF Correspondence
ORDINANCES / RESOLUTIONS / CORRESPONDENCE FROM OTHER TOWNS
- Letter received January 20, 2012, from the Township of Roxbury regarding Re-examination Report of the Master Plan and Development Regulations for Renewable Energy Facilities and Systems. PDF Correspondence
- Notice received January 23, 2012, from the Township of Roxbury regarding Re-examination Report of the Master Plan and Development Regulations for Renewable Energy Facilities and Systems. PDF Correspondence
- Ordinance received January 25, 2012, from the Township of Jefferson regarding Redevelopment Ordinance / Land Use 1-12. PDF Correspondence
LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITIES
- E-mail received January 13, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Two Upcoming Programs: Doing Business with the Private Sector. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 13, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Correction to Jan 12 Federal Road Sign Standards Update. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 13, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Upcoming League Seminar. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 17, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding 2012 Campaign Contribution Notice. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 17, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding 2012 State of the State Message. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 17, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Upcoming League Seminars. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 19, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding New Law Permits Moving of School Board Elections. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 19, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Three Upcoming League Seminars. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 19, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Recent Supreme Court Decision in Polzo v. Essex County. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 19, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Summary of Recently Enacted Legislation. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 20, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Upcoming League Seminar. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 23, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding New Content on DLGS Website, Grant Listserve for League members and Upcoming League Seminar. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 23, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Deadline to Introduce CY 2012 Budget Extended. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 24, 2012, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Two Upcoming League Seminars. PDF Correspondence
DEP / DOT / LOI / HIGHLANDS / EPA / DEPT. OF AGRICULTURE / ABC / BIDS
- Letter received January 17, 2012, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding the Historic Nomination of the Flanders Methodist Episcopal Church to the New Jersey and National Registers of Historic Places. PDF Correspondence
- Letter received January 23, 2012, from First Environment regarding Amended Response Action Outcome for Lamtec Corporation, BL 6800 Lot 10 (700 Bartley-Chester Road.) PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 24, 2012, from the New Jersey Highlands Council regarding Debeck Associates LLC. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 13, 2012, from Morris County Chamber of Commerce regarding How to Implement a Cloud Computing Environment for your Business. PDF Correspondence
- Letter received January 17, 2012, from the Morris County Board of Chosen Freeholders regarding 2012 County Budget. PDF Correspondence
- Minutes received January 23, 2012, from the Morris County Planning Board regarding the December 1, 2011 meeting. PDF Correspondence
- E-mail received January 23, 2012, from the Department of Community Affairs regarding GovConnect Update: January 23, 2012. PDF Correspondence
- Local Finance Notice received January 26, 2012, from the Department of Community Affairs regarding Moving School Elections to the November General Election. PDF Correspondence
- Fax received January 20, 2012, from Comcast regarding “Preferred Collection” On Demand and Network Re-branding. PDF Correspondence
President Roman: We are on to Correspondence. We have 28 pieces of Correspondence. Does anyone
wish to discuss anything? Seeing none, we are on to Ordinances for Public Hearing.
ORDINANCES FOR PUBLIC HEAR ING
President Roman: I open the hearing to the public on:
Ord.#3-2012 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive Amending Ordinance #8-2011 Which Established Salaries for the Mayor, Council, Department Heads, Supervisory Personnel and Employees of the Township Clerk's Office.
President Roman: Does anyone from the public wish to be heard? Seeing none, Mr. Nicastro.
Mr. Nicastro: Yes, I move for adoption and final passage of Ord. #3-2012 to be passed on second reading and
hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy to…
Mrs. Lashway: No, no, nope.
Mr. Walsh: Wrong one.
Mrs. Lashway: It's for final adoption.
Mr. Nicastro: Final adoption.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Roman: It's been moved and seconded. Any Council discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Roman: I open the hearing to the public…oh, I'm sorry. Ord.#3-2012 is passed on
second reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy of same to the Mayor and publish the
notice of adoption as required by law.
Mr. Walsh: I move for adoption and final passage of…am I jumping the gun?
President Roman: It's Joe's fault. I open the hearing to the public on:
Ord.#4-2012 An Ordinance of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive, County of Morris, State of New Jersey Vacating a Portion of South Rose Lane.
President Roman: Anyone from the public? Seeing none, Mr. Walsh.
Mr. Walsh: I move for adoption and final passage of Ord. #4-2012.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Roman: It's been moved and seconded, any Council discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Roman: Ord.#4-2012 is passed on second reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a
copy of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption as required by law. I open the hearing to
the public on:
Ord.#5-2012 An Ordinance of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Established Recreation Fees for Various Township-Sponsored Recreational Activities.
President Roman: Anyone from the public? Seeing none, Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: Thank you Mr. President. I move Ord.#5-2012 for adoption and final passage. I did that in
Mr. Ferrante: Second.
President Roman: It's been moved and seconded. Any Council discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Roman: Ord.#5-2012 is passed on second reading and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a
copy of same to the Mayor and publish the notice of adoption as required by law. We are on to:
ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING (2 nd reading 2/14/2012)
President Roman: The first ordinance for First Reading is:
Ord.#6-2012 Bond Ordinance Providing for Various Improvements of the Township of Mount Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey, Appropriating the Aggregate Amount of $459,500 Therefore and Authorizing the Issuance of $436,525 Bonds or Notes of the Township to Finance Part of the Cost Thereof.
President Roman: Mr. Ferrante.
Mr. Ferrante: I move that Ord. #6-2012 be introduced by title and passed on first reading and that a meeting be held on February 14, 2012, at 7:00 p.m. at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Budd Lake, NJ, for a public hearing, consideration of second reading and passage of said Ordinance and that the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available said Ordinance in accordance with the requirements of the law.
President Roman: Can I get a second?
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Roman: It's been moved and seconded. Council discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Roman: The next item on the Agenda for First Reading is:
Ord.#7-2012 Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive, Morris County, New Jersey, Amending Chapter 139, “Games of Chance” of the Code of the Township of Mount Olive, Designating the Township Clerk as the Issuing Authority.
President Roman: Mr. Nicastro.
Mr. Nicastro: Yes, I move that Ord. #7-2012 be introduced by title and passed on first reading and that a meeting be held on February 14, 2012, at 7:00 p.m. at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Budd Lake, NJ, for a public hearing, consideration of second reading and passage of said Ordinance and that the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available said Ordinance in accordance with the requirements of the law.
President Roman: Second?
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Roman: It's been moved and seconded, Council discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS AGENDA:
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Filing of a Grant Application to the National Recreation and Trails Program. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Funds for the Acquisition of Block 8100 Lots, 50, 58 & 60, Portions of Block 7000 Lots 53 & 70 and Community Garden on Block 8100 Lot 61. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing Professional Services for Well Evaluation for Charters Farm, Block 8300 LOTS 3 & 4. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Use of Open Space Funds for Turkey Brook Drainage Improvements. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing Additional Funding to Morris Habitat for Humanity, Block 2203 Lots 2 & 3, for the Purpose of Constructing Specified Residences in Accordance with the Rule and Regulations of COAH. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Issuance of a Duplicate Tax Sale Certificate Pursuant to Chapter 99 of the Public Laws of 1997. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Approving a Vendor Service Contract on a ‘Non-Fair and Open' Basis Pursuant to the ‘Pay-to-Play' Law. (Edmunds & Associates) PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Adopting the List of Eligible LOSAP Emergency Service Volunteers for 2011. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Providing for the Transfer of 2011 Budget Appropriations for the Current Fund Budget. PDF Resolution
- Resolution Authorizing the Execution and Delivery of Loan Agreements to be Executed by the Township of Mount Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey and Each of the New Jersey Environmental Infrastructure Trust and the State of New Jersey, Acting by and Through the Department of Environmental Protection, and Further Authorizing the Execution and Delivery of an Escrow Agreement, all Pursuant to the 2012 New Jersey Environmental Infrastructure Trust Financing Program. PDF Resolution
- Resolution Determining the Form and Other Details of Not Exceeding $382,200 General Improvement Bonds, Series 2012, of the Township of Mount Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey, and Providing for Their Sale to the New Jersey Environmental Infrastructure Trust and the State of New Jersey Pursuant to the 2012 New Jersey Environmental Infrastructure Trust Financing Program. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing a Temporary Capital Budget for Various General Improvements in the amount of $459,500. PDF Resolution
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive RE: William Sohl. PDF Resolution
Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Approving a Vendor Service Contract on a ‘Non Fair and Open' Basis Pursuant to the ‘Pay-to-Play' Law. (Flanders Valley Weddings & Banquet) PDF Resolution
Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Township to Supply Electric Power to Mount Olive Board of Education for High School Softball Field Scoreboard. PDF Resolution
Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Use of Competitive Contracting for Carnival Services for 2012. PDF Resolution
President Roman: Okay, we are on to Consent Resolutions. Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are
considered to be routine and non-controversial by the Township Council and will be approved by one motion
(one vote). There will be no separate discussion or debate on each of these resolutions except for the possibility
of brief clarifying statements that may be offered. If one or more Council member requests, any individual
resolution on the Consent Agenda may be removed from the Consent Agenda List and acted on separately. With
that in mind, does anyone wish to remove any one from Consent to Non-Consent?
Mrs. Labow: Number 13.
President Roman: Anyone else? Mr. Nicastro, could you move Consent Resolutions, we have 1 through 12
and 14 through 16.
Mr. Nicastro: Yes, I move Consent Resolutions 1 through12 and 14 through 16.
President Roman: Can I get a second?
Mrs. Labow: Second
President Roman: It's been moved and seconded. Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
- Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive RE: William Sohl. PDF Resolution
President Roman: We are on to Non-Consent Resolutions. Number 13, can I get a…
Mr. Walsh: I'll move Consent Resolution Number 13.
President Roman: It's been moved and is the a second?
Mr. Nicastro: Second.
PUBLIC PORTION ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
President Roman: It's been moved and seconded. Is there any Council discussion?
Mrs. Labow: I have discussion. I just want to make this on Non-Consent because of the situation where there was a question on how hours were allotted when Mr. Sohl was the business administrator and he has requested that the records be adjusted so that he can then be paid the money that he feels is due him on his retirement. I asked to have that separate because I disagree with that. I feel he was the business administrator. He is actually charged with knowing how to fill out time cards, time sheets and it also, although the labor attorney feels it does not set a precedent, I feel it does set a precedent because our Employee Handbook is set up for a certain reason. There are laws that we are supposed to be following and if we just make exceptions and not follow the rules or the laws then why do we have them to begin with. So that is why I'd like to have it pulled separate, for a separate vote and if anybody else wants to make any discussion on it. The other thing too, this is money that's coming out of the taxpayers and we have to put the money back into the budget in order to pay this money out. It's a small amount of money, $2,300 I believe but I think it is really based on the whole principle of the whole thing and I just don't think we should make an exception in this case because we would be making exceptions all the time.
Mr. Semrau: The only thing I'd just like to add for the record from a legal perspective, you are correct, Labor Counsel did say that this would not set a precedent and also, the basis for that is in the resolution to protect the interests of the Township. Thanks.
President Roman: Does anyone else have anything to say? Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Greenbaum: This actually is an issue which we are requiring Dave Scapicchio to sign off on because it arose last year. I've given it much thought and really what this is from my perspective is nothing more than a bookkeeping error in terms of the way that the time was entered. We are not giving Mr. Sohl anything which he otherwise wouldn't have been entitled too. Mr. Sohl has served the Township in many capacities for many years and this really is a non-issue. I believe, Colleen, that the money is actually coming out of last year's budget although I'm not 100% certain.
Mrs. Labow: At the last meeting when we asked about it you said we'd have to put it back in to the budget.
Mayor Greenbaum: Yes, I'm not 100% sure but…
Mrs. Labow: That is what Sherry had said.
Mayor Greenbaum: But in any event, it's giving Mr. Sohl what he has proven he is entitled to other than the fact that there was an error made in terms of the way that the time was entered. We are not giving him anything beyond that and it would be completely unfair in this instance not to compensate Mr. Sohl for what he was entitled to and I would hope that you would all support this resolution.
President Roman: Mr. Walsh.
Mr. Walsh: I just want to make one more statement. Number one, again, I'd like to thank Councilwoman Labow. She's always really trying to do the right thing and I do sincerely believe she believes what she is doing is the right thing but I do believe that if anybody were to make issue of this, say if anybody from the public were to come in or whatever, it would probably in my humble opinion be more political than that they sincerely believe that he doesn't deserve what he is supposed to get any way. So I just wanted to make that statement. I just think that we are kind of…well, I'll just leave it at that. Thank you.
President Roman: Mr. Green, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Greenbaum: Sorry, it just brought up an example which I think is fairly appropriate in a sense. When I play cards with my friends, it's always what you have, not what you call because it is a friendly game. No one is looking to take advantage of anybody else and so when you put your cards down, if you call it as two pair and you actually have a full house, someone else points out that it is actually a full house and that person ends up getting what they are entitled to. I see this as no different. I hate to equate it to a card game but really that is what we are talking about. We are talking about what Mr. Sohl was entitled to and we are giving him what he was entitled to despite the fact that he might have called it the wrong way.
President Roman: It's funny you say that Mr. Mayor. I have encountered that situation many a time where I thought a spade was a heart and called the wrong hand. Mr. Walsh.
Mr. Walsh: I just want to also say, I really think it takes a lot of guts for Colleen to do, to come and set this resolution aside. So I just want to say I commend you for it.
Mrs. Labow: Thank you. I just want to add one other thing into this. The days that…the reason why I have an issue with this is, the days that were in question…there are several days from January all the way to December. On several occasions the timesheet were filled out incorrectly and as I understand he was cautioned and he was told by the staff that you are filling them out wrong. I think that when you have somebody who is the boss, your really are at a high standard and you are supposed to be following regulations. It's nothing against Bill. I really like Bill a lot but I just think in this case, if you are supposed to be doing the job and if it happened once and it was a one time thing, okay he made a mistake but it went from January, then February, and then June and then in July and September and November and December and it was several times and that's why I could go ahead and say oh let it go, it was just one time but when it is a pattern and it was brought to his attention, that's where I just have an issue with ongoing things. If it was a one time thing, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
President Roman: Well never let it be said that Mrs. Labow is not courageous and will not speak her mind. That is something nobody can ever say.
Mrs. Labow: Yes, some times to my detriment but I have to speak. I just thinking about $2,300.00. There are a lot of people that could buy oil for their homes and everything else and they are planning on the job being done right.
President Roman: And if this resolution were to be turned down, it would not help anybody else.
Mrs. Labow: No…$2,300.00 is a lot of money.
President Roman: As far as I know, those monies would not go to anybodies heating oil. I for one…
Mrs. Labow: It would be used for taxes.
President Roman: I, for one, echo Mr. Mayor's sentiments that this is a bookkeeping error. We are not doing anything that is ill toward. We have advice from Counsel that this will not set a precedent and I, for one, am greatly appreciative for all of Mr. Sohl's work when he served on this Board and as Business Administrator. With that in mind, can I get a Roll Call please.
ROLL CALL: Passed, Mrs. Labow voted No
President Roman: Okay, we are on to Consent Motions. Mr. Walsh.
- Approval of Raffle Application #2434 & #2435 for the Sandshore Home and School Partnership and Raffle Application #2436 for Deerpath Montessori School.
- Approval of the renewal of a Peddler's Permit for William Prickett for mobile food vending.
- Approval of the renewal of a Taxi Permit for Sohail Anjum, d/b/a Budd Lake Taxi. *Added
- Bill List. PDF Bill List
Mr. Walsh: Yes, I move Consent Motions number one through three. Just one and two?
Mrs. Lashway: There are four of them.
President Roman: There are four of them.
Mr. Walsh: Oh, there's four now. I move Consent Motions one through four.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
President Roman: It's been moved and seconded. Is there anyone from the public with any questions on the Bill List? Anyone on Council have any questions on the Bill List? Roll Call.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
President Roman: Okay, we are on to Administrative Reports. Mr. Mayor? Mr. Canning?
Mayor Greenbaum: Administrative Reports.
Mr. Canning: Yes.
Mayor Greenbaum: You start. I will, I'll do it after you.
Mr. Canning: Okay. Just briefly, we've a couple of things that we've been working on. At the February 14 th meeting, we touched upon this at the last Council session, we will be giving a display for the responsive government system we are implementing that has to do with the online portal that we have for citizen response. The departments are currently being trained on that. We're pretty excited about it. This has to do with reporting potholes and various other quality of life issues within the Township. The departments are strictly charged with three business days to respond back to that citizen or get it fixed. We look forward to providing you with an example of that. Currently the department heads and I and the Mayor, we are reviewing the policies and handbooks, getting their real life take on how these policies can and should be changed in accord with law and also day to day practices. Once that is completed we will probably be looking for possible guidance from Council for either subcommittee to get their own take on it before providing the full handbook to the Council as well as legal review by Mr. Semrau. Properties along Route 46, myself along with Catherine Natafalusy from Planning and Zoning and Chuck, we've been taking a look at some areas along Route 46 we can hopefully examine and possibly follow the proper course to improve the businesses along Route 46. So we've been busy with that. Lastly, Mr. Quinn from the DPW and I have been examining our recycling options. Currently our MUA contract has expired for our recyclables that we pick up curbside. We are trying to examine all options to get a better profit in to Town. We'd like to market these if we could so we are going to take a look in the next week or two and see what is to the benefit of Mount Olive and act appropriately and submit to the Governing Body.
President Roman: Are businesses now currently required to recycle? Does anyone know?
Mrs. Labow: Yes.
Mr. Canning: By ordinance I believe so, yes.
Mrs. Labow: They have been.
President Roman: They are required to recycle?
Mrs. Labow: Yes, but they don't.
President Roman: That is something that I would like to at least see if we can not so much enforce but maybe remind the business and encouragement to recycle. Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: When we had the Solid Waste Advisory Committee, we did discuss that, I guess last year we kind of disbanded that Board and Tim was working on notifying the companies. He was working his way through Town to give a notification that they are supposed to be recycling. I don't know what happened with those efforts but it came about when the MUA was going to start charging, Mr. Canning would probably be able to know this better than me, I think they were going to charge $500.00 to businesses who continued to deposit recyclable items and I had actually taken a tour, a visit over to our Transfer Station and you can, when those trucks are dumped you can see all of the, I mean there is just tons of recyclable material in there. But I don't know whatever happened with that initiative on the State level. I don't think they ever started fining any businesses.
Mr. Canning: Yeah, I don't believe so as well. As I said, I think this is in area where we do a good job already but I think there is room for improvement and certainly the market for materials, it poses the opportunity for us to get a return into our recycling trust fund.
Mrs. Labow: And I think most of the businesses, when they have their solid waste contractors, if they are going to have recycling part to that, it's an additional cost to them.
President Roman: Actually it is not.
Mrs. Labow: No? I was told that it is an additional cost to have the recycling picked up.
President Roman: I currently recycle and my recycling does not cost me because they are making money off of my recycling.
Mrs. Labow: Okay, that's good to know. I was given misinformation.
President Roman: That is why. Mr. Canning, if I may be one of the first to lodge a complaint. On Smithtown Road, that road is getting…are we going to be taking care of that road any time soon? Do we know if it is on the List?
Mr. Canning: I will have to check with Mr. Quinn and Mr. Buczynski.
President Roman: As you are coming down right before you get to 46. Apparently I always forget which side has that massive pothole but I seem to find it every single time. I believe it is moving.
Mr. Canning: We can add this to the “IWorks” list first thing in the morning and it will be a nice beta case for us for response.
Mayor Greenbaum: That is the beauty of the system as it is going to work. Someone is going to log in information whether it be from the public or if someone from the Council or someone from any walk of life and it will get responded to within a very short timeframe. We will be able to track how much it costs to resolve the problem, how long it took to resolve the problem, whether or not we've ever had a similar problem in the same place. It is really going to be a very exciting tool that we can use on the Administrative side to manage a lot of the issues that affect the residents on a daily basis.
Mrs. Labow: Mr. Canning was saying that when they fix a problem they can find out if there is an underlying reason for it and take care of it so you don't continue to get the calls which I think is just excellent. Also, I was thinking today that as our staff, anybody's out driving around either checking water meters or recycling pick up, solid waste pick up, if they had the ability, if they see a pothole in the road like Mr. Roman just brought up, just like put it in right away. You can start to get an idea, well okay, this street and this street because they are the eyes and ears out there. Just get it on the record right away and the same thing with Council. If you see something, put it in right away.
Mayor Greenbaum: Absolutely but it also allows us to find out exactly how long it is taking our employees to resolve a problem so there is time entry in terms of the pothole took 15 minutes or 20 minutes or whatever the case may be. So it really is a great tool in terms of being able to manage our employees. I had several other issues that I wanted to address on the Administrative side if there aren't any other questions for Mr. Canning. The first of which is I want to congratulate Lisa Pignataro. I sent Lisa to the Highlands Council. There was a resolution which was on with respect to the Deebek property which is on Route 46. It's along the western side of, actually it is on the northern side of Route 46. It is a property which is likely to be developed into another car dealership in that same area. They had Highlands issues and they were looking for a Highlands waiver. The evening that the resolution was put up, Lisa went on my behalf. Both the Highlands Council and the applicant were extremely gratified that Mount Olive was taking a position to help encourage business within the Township and an interest in terms of how the Highlands Council was resolving issues and ultimately the resolution passed and we are likely to see a new business along that section of Route 46 consistent with the type of business which currently exists there.
President Roman: Excellent.
Mayor Greenbaum: Secondly, in an effort to reduce costs we have made the decision to eliminate an overtime position in the court system. We are moving forward with hiring an outside company to actually do the metal screening, the wanding so to speak. It's done in other towns. It's allowed under the court rules and it will allow us to remove one police officer from an overtime position thus saving significant dollars on an hourly basis by something that can be done by an approved employee from a private company. So we are going to save money there. On February 14 th I'm going to be bringing to the Council a concept, a very exciting concept with respect to our Affordable Housing Trust Fund. As you all know, we are under some time constraints to either spend the money or lose the money. We've been working on it. We have something which we think will benefit the Township both in terms of creating affordable housing and also improving a section of the Town which currently not maintained in the best fashion possible. It's called Cobblestone. It's a joint effort that will occur between Mount Olive Township and Homeless Solutions and I should have all of the information to be able to show you what Homeless Solutions has done in similar situations throughout Morris County. They've done some really nice work and it will certainly benefit those people who can't ultimately afford to live in Mount Olive and really does go to the heart of why there is an Affordable Housing Trust Fund. I think it is a totally appropriate use for that.
President Roman: Do you know when the deadline is for us to use those funds?
Mrs. Labow: July.
Mayor Greenbaum: July.
President Roman: And Homeless Solutions, that's that housing development at the bottom of the mountain, right?
Mayor Greenbaum: Have you been down there?
Mrs. Labow: It's gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous.
Mayor Greenbaum: It's beautiful and you are going to see what else they've done elsewhere. It's unfortunate that because they are called Homeless Solutions it creates an image that really doesn't depict what they do or what their company is all about. It's just a name.
President Roman: I sat on the Board of Adjustment when that application was before us.
Mrs. Labow: I went down there just to check it out when it was finished and I was just really totally impressed. It's absolutely gorgeous.
President Roman: Mr. Mayor, anything else?
Mayor Greenbaum: With respect to, here's something interesting. We've been working with all of the sporting clubs looking for solutions to some of the long standing problems we've had whether it be field usage time, whether it be flooding issues on some of the fields. The baseball issue became particularly acute in light of the discussion we had that we may ultimately lose a field which I hope doesn't happen. We round tabled it. It was Jim Lynch and Tim Quinn, Sean, myself and Mike Mancini from baseball. One of the fields up at Turkey Brook because of the way that it drains is particularly non-usable whenever there is a wet field condition.
President Roman: Would that be number four.
Mayor Greenbaum: Number four. Jim Lynch, Jimmy is here, why don't you come up? We actually came up with a rather cheap solution, several thousand dollars but ultimately we are hopeful that we will be able to bring field four back in to play through what Jim is proposing. Jim, why don't you give them a brief overview of what it is that we are looking to do.
Mr. Lynch: Actually, one clarifying statement. It's field one Mr. Roman, Mr. Mayor. It's the lowest one on the hub right by the tower.
President Roman: Oh, okay.
Mr. Lynch: Which always takes the water. Because of the terracing design, the softball field drains on the field two. Field two drains onto field one. So what I did, I did some research. There is a relatively new product out. The concept is about 15 years old. I was skeptical of it. I had seen it when I was in golf turf. It's a PVC pipe that can be laid either flat or vertically. It comes in 6”, 12” and 18” widths. What we are looking to do is we are going to create a radius drain around the outfield, five arcs going out towards the outfield fence. We are going to catch the water in those and move them out to the hill that the kids sleigh ride down now, outside of baseball field one.
President Roman: Not this year. They are not sleigh riding this year.
Mr. Lynch: No they have not, actually yes they did. The other weekend when we had the snow, there was some intrepid young souls there but we are going to catch the water in several places, direct it using the natural crown of the field which the crowns on those fields albeit well intended never served their purpose because of the heavy clay soil we have in this part of the State of New Jersey. It just doesn't work the way it was intended but this product, like I said it is a product that has been around. One key refinement to the product has been the introduction and the vendor actually puts a, some of you may or may not understand the concept of a filter fabric, when you put down landscape. It's called a weed barrier that you put your mulch on top. This is a little bit more scientific a product but they sleeve the pipe in this and it has been tested throughout the regions of the United States and to give you one example, one of the regions very similar to us is along the Mississippi River with that type of soil. They did a 17 year, they are in the 17 th year of the test and the piping they put in is still about 72% effective in moving water through its drainage network. I'm looking at a product that I'm hoping for a 20 year life span on baseball one. If we can get that in, I think it is about a $7,000.00 investment. It will be done in house. The fields at Turkey Brook have always been an issue and what has never seemed to be an option in all of my research, my periodicals I read through, traditional drain pipe wouldn't work. It just wouldn't get the job done they way we needed it to do it. So technology has caught up with Turkey Brook thankfully. We will be looking to move that project forward as soon as, I guess the resolution has passed now. So we will be looking to get the materials ordered and we will be trying it so I will obviously be in direct contact with Mr. Canning who will updating the Mayor and we will be updating you as the project moves.
President Roman: When do you anticipate commencement?
Mr. Lynch: I am hoping, obviously this winter has been a tremendous anomaly. Right now we are engaged in a few projects around Town. I am hoping at some point towards mid to late February to get this rolling. It's going to take me probably 14 days to get this drain pipe on the ground. The rest of the products I can get locally. It comes out of Wisconsin so I have to establish a PO with that vendor and have it trucked in. So as soon as I have the product on the ground, the rest of it is materials I can order and have onsite ready to go and we will be bringing in a part time/full time temp basically with the funds that we discussed last year, the $10.00 assessment that the sports associations pay. So we will be bringing in a staff member. We will get that rolling and we'll get it in. Hopefully, we only loose the field for the very beginning of the season. I'm hoping to have baseball back on that field by the beginning of May, May 15 th at the latest.
President Roman: And I'm assuming you have kept baseball abreast as to what you are going to be doing with it?
Mr. Lynch: I have been in multiple conversations with Mr. Mancini from baseball. I'm actually, as soon as this meeting completes, I'm heading down to the baseball meeting tonight. I will be in contact again with Mr. Mancini. At the next meeting I will be presenting it to their membership just so they're apprised of what is going to be going on. If the system works, it's obviously a system that we would look through budgetary means to implement across to other fields at Turkey Brook that have historical issues.
President Roman: Yes, Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: Too bad we didn't know about this last week. Mayor Greenbaum could have rented a truck and brought it back with him.
Mayor Greenbaum: That was two weeks ago Colleen.
Mrs. Labow: Oh, two weeks ago already, that's true.
Mayor Greenbaum: Last week was San Francisco.
Mrs. Labow: Oh, that's right. I just wanted to, I was talking to a resident that lives over on Renault in Cloverhill and they were telling me how one of the things they used to love is there are two fields over at, what's the school, Mountain View? And they noticed that in recent years that there just isn't any games going on over there because I was telling them about how the Board of Ed building, going up for sale we are going to lose that field and they said, why don't they work on those two fields and have the games there. So I was just wondering if you looked in to those two fields or why they are not being used like they used to be used. I know it's the Board of Ed but…
Mr. Lynch: To be very upfront with you Councilwoman, the Board of Ed maintains the majority of the Mountain View School. In my ten years as an employee of Mount Olive Township, we've maintained the softball little league field there. I will be very upfront and we are coming up on budget hearings. As the Council can look in your books and historically you can look back. I receive about $1,500.00 a year that is allocated strictly for infield mix to be put on fields. That is a school facility. I allocate the infield mix that the Council approves through the budgetary process, I use it at Turkey Brook and Flanders Park exclusively. Baseball has been gracious enough to get materials donated in the past. Really some of the issues we deal with and we continue to try and work with them through shared services, the Board of Ed should be looking to put infield mix on that field is used, albeit it seldomly for their JV softball and freshman softball program. Unfortunately it is an area that we know is in need but with finances being what they are in this economy it's more judicious to put the materials on Township fields.
President Roman: Jim, correct me if I'm wrong but that field is not capable of replacing Budd Lake field.
Mr. Lynch: That field is not capable of replacing Budd Lake field. I will say this and I do not want to speak to far on it tonight, I am discussing with Mr. Quinn and Mr. Canning and the Mayor will be, they are aware but they are not, I don't think, fully aware of some of the details. I'm working out options. In the event that Budd Lake school is lost, I believe we have the ability to offset that lost through other properties that already exist.
Mayor Greenbaum: We talked about that when we sat down with Mike Mancini that there are other options and we'll have to address them as we get closer to an ultimate decision. We may not lose the Budd Lake field.
President Roman: In my discussion with a couple of Board of Ed members it is my understanding that you're advising or at least suggesting that in the process of sale there would be some contingencies made in place in possibility of either retaining that field or at least allowing the use of it until the sale is complete.
Mrs. Labow: Which is what we did when we sold the ARC building, when ARC bought the old Flanders school.
Mayor Greenbaum: It's a little different because that was a diversionary, Green Acres diversion. You know, Alex, I'm caught in a quandary between promoting business generation. You have frontage on Route 46. That piece of property, I think in total is about five acres. You know, it's not terribly attractive in and of itself in terms of development but I did approach a member of the Board of Education and inquire, I had someone else inquire as to whether or not they would consider subdividing the property so that we could take possession of the back field and they were not disfavorable to subdividing so if I come to the conclusion ultimately that I can't entice some other further major development of that site and part of the Simoff tract and part of other properties that are in that area, I will pursue the subdivision issue if the Board of Education is interested to make to use open space dollars, Green Acres dollars to preserve that field because it is in the best interest of the Township but I first need to, in my own mind, eliminate the possibility of a commercial ratable which would benefit the Town beyond just that field being maintained.
President Roman: I would recommend if we start going down that track of subdividing and using Green Acres or open space funds that baseball be made aware of the limitations if those funds are used on those fields and make them aware in case they wish to, if they could, purchase because right now they are allowed to do things on that field that they cannot do on Turkey Brook..
Mayor Greenbaum: Such as?
President Roman: Advertising.
Mrs. Labow: But that is going to change.
President Roman: Not on Turkey Brook.
Mayor Greenbaum: Yeah. I think it is. I think there are certain types of advertising that you can do and certain types of advertising that you can't do and we'll get into the discussion at some point in time down the road because it is something that we are looking at. We are looking at advertising in a number of different areas both on our website and our sporting facilities to allow the clubs…You know right now we are looking at the clubs to really pony up the dollars to do improvements to field usage so we are going to have to be creative in terms of the way that will allow the clubs to raise money to be able to do these improvements. One of the improvements which I'm pushing which is in the budget for this year is actually a turf field at field number four up at Turkey Brook. We are going to have discussions about that at some point in time but soccer has already come to the table indicating that they will pony up all of the costs associated with the installation of that field throughout the course of whatever it is going to cost to actually install the field. We are going to do the same with football. We are going to do the same with baseball. So we will look at all of these different issues. What improvements is baseball looking for? What are they willing to pay? How can the Township make it happen? If it is not coming out of the general revenue, it is a win win for everybody because now you have the users of the facility actually paying for the facility and they gladly do it if the improvement is of substantial nature that it allows them to enjoy the facility that much further. I believe that advertising is permitted on Green Acres facilities as long as it is not permanent in nature and I'm not exactly sure what the other limitations are but it is something that we are going to explore and ultimately baseball will have, baseball will come to the realization that what they can't do at Turkey Brook, they can't do elsewhere. It would be the same limitation. Baseball's not going to be in a position to purchase that field. We are not in a position to purchase that field without Green Acres dollars. You are probably talking about a substantial outlay.
President Roman: Anyone else? New Business?
Mayor Greenbaum: I have one other thing that I'd like to bring up under Administrative Matters.
President Roman: Yes, please.
Mayor Greenbaum: Kathy Murphy is currently in the process of, and we should have installation of, in a very short timeframe trail markers so people will know that this where the trails begin, this is where you can enter a trail. We are going to do it all throughout the Town and we are going to start to better publicize the trail systems that we have.
President Roman: This is a discussion that has been, that I've had on the Rec Advisory Committee and I would at this time also in the planning stages of doing those trail markers if we can one, make those trails available on the website and I, personally, I envision there being a Mount Olive App. So when somebody is out with their phone and they want to know where the nearest trail is, so if that is something that can happen that would be wonderful and it would allow for someone, a resident to at least instantly know where the trails are and better utilize them because that's got to be one of the things that is so underutilized in this Township. There are people that have probably lived here 20 years and have no idea that there is a trail 100 yards away.
Mayor Greenbaum: I wholeheartedly agree with everything you just said.
President Roman: Can I have that on the record?
Mrs. Labow: Actually since we are talking about the trails, can I just skip ahead and then go back? I just wanted to…
President Roman: I get confused easily so you can put me back on track.
Mrs. Labow: For the Pride Committee we want to do an Earth Day celebration which we had not done last year and one of the things that we are looking to do is partner up with the Open Space Committee and the Environmental Committee and actually have emphasis on the trails and possibly have the Earth Day celebration at one of the trail heads and just to bring awareness for the public.
Mayor Greenbaum: When are you looking to do this?
Mrs. Labow: It's April 22 nd the day after the 5K race is Earth Day.
Mayor Greenbaum: Okay, you need to make sure that we have the information required to be able to publicize it on our page.
Mrs. Labow: I just sent an email to Bob, who is the Chair now of the Open Space Committee and we are going to reach out to the Environmental Committee because we just met with Pride this past week and I had spoke to John Ferrante about it briefly. John is also on the Pride Committee. We are right in the early stages and Lisa Pignataro, of course, is on the Open Space so we are moving forward with that but absolutely and so we are really looking forward to it and we are trying to figure out what we wanted to do for Earth Day and we started thinking with all the work that Open Space is doing with the trails and moving along. They've already finished Phase I. I think we have five phases and I just thought it would be a really great idea to really boost that up.
Mayor Greenbaum: I think it's great. One other thing that I would like to bring up which Colleen reminded me of, this month in the Monthly we are publicizing OEM information, contact information and other information which is critical in the event of an emergency so hopefully people will maintain that on their refrigerators or wherever else they have access in case of an emergency. The following month we are looking at actually allowing the sports clubs to advertise or to put information about their clubs on our page so that they can get out their message to the Township residents.
Mrs. Labow: So that would be for March? They are going to do March?
Mayor Greenbaum: Yes, it's March.
Mrs. Labow: Okay.
President Roman: Anything else Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Greenbaum: But the page can be split so that if there is, because we probably need…
Mrs. Labow: Because of Earth Day we'd like to expand on that.
Mayor Greenbaum: We will work it out.
Mrs. Labow: Okay, that's good.
President Roman: Mr. Mayor, anything else?
Mayor Greenbaum: Yes, there is a lot more but in the, we will save it for the 14 th .
President Roman: Anyone with Old Business?
Mrs. Labow: I have New Business.
President Roman: New Business, Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: Thank you. I saw in my real estate email today that Governor Christie just signed into law the Blue Acres legislation A-4267 which permits counties and municipalities to utilize county and municipal open space trust funds for additional purposes of purchasing flood prone properties otherwise known as Blue Acres project. This is actually a question I have for Mr. Semrau. Do we, I don't know that we have any properties specifically in town that would comply with this and if so, do we need to amend our ordinance in any way shape or form to accommodate this if we do have properties?
Mr. Semrau: I believe that the legislation also includes the fact that Blue Acres type funding would be incorporated in your open space type trust or preservation.
Mrs. Labow: Automatically, so we don't have to take any action on our level.
Mr. Semrau: I don't believe so. I'll confirm that but I believe that legislation incorporates that provision.
Mrs. Labow: Okay, great, thank you.
President Roman: Anyone else with New Business? Legal Matters?
Mr. Semrau: Thank you Council President. The only thing I want to mention is at the last meeting I said that I would just give you a brief update. We have no more than six open space acquisitions right now that we are working thanks to this governing body. Kathy Murphy has been keeping us very busy. We have the BASF acquisition which is 57 acres, Charters which I know has been out there for quite some time and we are moving towards closing on that acquisition, just taking care of things such as the well testing and things that are customary practice to get to a closing. The old Presbyterian Church is in progress as far as we have a contract in place and going forward with that. That should have a very good outcome and then we have three property donations that we are in the process of bringing to closure. That's my report but that's from the standpoint. All of those acquisitions we are moving forward with. Thank you.
President Roman: Okay, we are on to Council Reports. Legislative.
Recreation Liaison Report – None
Board of Health Report – None
Board of Education Liaison Report – None
Legislative Committee Report
Mr. Walsh: Actually before I mention legislative, on the Pride Committee since you brought it up. We will be doing some Habitat for Humanity homes in town and I mentioned it to the Mayor and I was talking to the woman at the Habitat for Humanity and we talked about possibly having a like a community…because they do ask for volunteers to help build the houses. Lisa (Pignataro) may be working on it too. So, just to kind of announce it, we may be trying to put together some type of Habitat thing and maybe the Pride Committee can get involved in that too.
Mrs. Labow: That would be excellent and scouts are good for that. They are really good for that as well because it helps them to learn how to do home repairs. So definitely contact all of the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts.
Mr. Walsh: Exactly, that's a really good one. I think we could make it a town event. I think it would be really great.
Mrs. Labow: I know one of my friends, she would actually volunteer for that and learn a lot of stuff.
Mr. Walsh: Yeah, so that's coming. And if I may do the School Report, the Board of Education first. We are very excited to say that they have voted to move the School Board elections to November. Everybody I've spoke to has been very excited about that. The Governor had and the Legislature had passed that each Township may on their own decide whether to do that and this Township has decided to move it to November. Along with that for everybody's…
President Roman: Mr. Walsh, if I may interject. The Board of Ed approved that resolution, it's my understanding it moves the election to November but it also prevents the public from voting on any budget that is under 2%. Now is it, does it require our approval do you know of? Mr. Semrau can answer that.
Mr. Semrau: No. Either entity could make that request by way of resolution so…
President Roman: So, hypothetically, if this governing body were to decide to adopt a resolution/ordinance preventing that from happening, it could not happen.
Mr. Semrau: No, that is correct.
President Roman: Thank you very much.
Mr. Walsh: To finish, what goes along with that in every town that decides to do this that as long as the budget is under a 2% increase, there will be no vote but if it goes over 2% even by a penny, then there will be a vote. That's my understanding. As far as legislative goes, the one thing I'd like to bring up that I really think needs to be read into the record. I actually wrote an editorial. It's been printed in a number of papers, The Record, The Herald, The Mt. Olive Chronicle and I believe The Star Ledger is going to run it too but, now I supported Governor Christie and of course still do. I even voted for him but recently Governor Christie announced that he wants to lower income taxes. Unfortunately, the only people who briefly benefit from lowering income taxes are the wealthy taxpayers. Now, he should use any extra money to lower property taxes. That would put more money in the hands of the middle class and in turn boost the economy. Let me finish here, it is very short sighted to advocate this strategy because they are the ones who will profit, the rich people will actually profit if property taxes are lowered because that will boost the economy. Whenever property taxes are lowered, the State receives more revenues in the long run because a good economy produces higher income and sales tax revenues. The formula to decrease the overall tax burden on citizens that has worked in other States is to cap property tax increases at 2% which we have done and then use State revenues to lower property taxes. It has been proven over and over again in other States. I'm sincerely becoming concerned that our Governor is more concerned with his national image and agenda then sincerely helping the people of New Jersey. Yes, I have supported the Governor, I still do but I very much question this strategy. As a matter of fact, I know it is wrong. It has been proven in State after State after State and I just want that to be read in to the record so that people know. Thank you.
President Roman: Do you have anything for Planning Board?
Planning Board Report – P. Walsh
Mr. Walsh: No, I do not. Not this week, no.
President Roman: Okay, Mr. Ferrante, Open Space.
Open Space Committee Report – J. Ferrante
Mr. Ferrante: I have nothing. We meet next week.
President Roman: Lake/Environmental.
Lake/Environment Issues Committee – J. Ferrante
Mr. Ferrante: Nothing.
President Roman: Library.
Library Board Liaison – J. Ferrante
Mr. Ferrante: Next week as well.
President Roman: Mr. Nicastro, Safety Committee.
Safety Committee Liaison – J. Nicastro
Mr. Nicastro: Yes, we just had our first meeting last week. It was basically my introduction to it, to find out more about it. They were discussing their needs and stuff and what was coming up. So our next meeting is, I believe, the month after. I think it's quarterly.
Mrs. Labow: Quarterly.
Economic Development Committee Report – J. Nicastro
Mr. Nicastro: They have a meeting there. The Economic Development meeting, our next meeting is scheduled for the 7 th , next week.
Senior Citizen Liaison – J. Mania
President Roman: Okay, Mr. Mania is not here for Senior Citizens. Mrs. Labow, do you have anything more on Pride?
Pride Committee Report – C. Labow
Mrs. Labow: The other thing with Pride, they are working on banners which Ms. Pignataro has taken on that project and basically, we meet in a month and then TNR…
President Roman: If I may Mrs. Labow, regarding, you brought up the issue of banner. Recently I was in California and I happened to come across a community called Huntington Beach and they had banners along one of their main thoroughfares which pictures of their hometown heroes.
Mrs. Labow: Oh cool.
President Roman: I would at this time request that maybe the Pride Committee just look into that to see if maybe that is something that they think would be beneficial to this Town.
Mrs. Labow: That's actually a very good idea because we were looking for what type of graphics to put on the banners. Like for Flanders we were thinking of Phyllis Shelton's home, The Mill, would be a good one and on the Budd Lake side of Town along the Lake we were thinking of lake scenes and that type of thing but hometown heroes would probably be a great idea.
President Roman: I think that would be one great way to honor the men and women that served from this Township by having their picture and name aptly displayed throughout the Township for all to know because it is amazing many veterans and people who have served live and walk amongst us and we are not aware of them at all.
Mrs. Labow: I think that is an excellent, excellent idea.
President Roman: TNR please.
TNR Program – C. Labow
Mrs. Labow: TNR, we had a meeting last Monday, a week ago Monday, with Mr. Canning, Mr. Wilpert, Mr. Cirone, Miss DiAlfonso, myself and we came to some, just to iron out some wrinkles in the program and then Mr. Canning made himself available on Friday and trained myself, Mrs. Lerner and Mrs. DiAlfonso on the iWorqs Program which we are very excited about because what is going to happen is it is going to be in real time. If somebody reports that a pet is missing, it will get uploaded right away into the iWorqs. TNR will be able to notice the information immediately and then if they happen to come across a cat or even a dog, but usually it's just cats, they will be able to help to match up the lost pet with the lost report or found pet with the lost report. Also, we will be able to get information on a more timely basis as to what cats are over at Golubs so we can make preparation for finding that cat a home. We also had our adoption day on Saturday over at Tractor Supply. Great company – they are so…they are just really wonderful to work with. The Manager kinds of sets you up, very friendly, always making sure we are doing okay and they actually adopted two cats out on Saturday. So that was a very nice experience and we continue to do our fundraising and right now they are selling vegan chocolate for Valentine's Day so if anybody would like to buy some vegan chocolate, we get a dollar per bar.
President Roman: Is that correct, vegan chocolate?
Mrs. Labow: Vegan chocolate. I had to research that one myself. It doesn't have any milk products in it.
President Roman: I'm sure you will inform us as to its edibility.
Mrs. Labow: I'm going to have to buy some and bring it to the next Council…of yeah, if I can get some the 14 th , I'll bring it in and you can try it out and you can let us know.
Mayor Greenbaum: I will bring a Hershey bar for everyone…John, I know you are in.
Mrs. Labow: Thank you.
President Roman: Okay, we are on to our last Public Portion. Does anyone from the public wish to be heard? Yes, if you can go up to the podium sir. Name and address for the record.
Robert Cali: My daughter had a resolution on her property taxes.
Mrs. Labow: I can't hear you. Thank you.
Mr. Cali: My daughter had a resolution on her property taxes in Mount Olive here and according to the paperwork, she is making her last payment. Tonight I dropped it off and the Township is looking for additional money from her and it doesn't say that in the resolution.
President Roman: Which resolution are you referring to?
Mr. Cali: It was started by Mr. Dorsey.
Mrs. Labow: Where is the property located?
Mr. Cali: Route 46, Block 3300 Lot 22.
Mr. Semrau: 3300?
Mrs. Labow: What's your daughter's name?
Mr. Cali: Carin, Carin Cali.
President Roman: Is it on today's Agenda? Tonight's Agenda?
Mr. Cali: No, it's just that she was making her last payment and she gave a call to the Town and the Town told her that she has to pay more money and the resolution doesn't say anything about any money to get the In Rem removed. This is where you meet your obligation and it will be removed.
President Roman: Have you directed that question to the Administration?
Mr. Cali: That's why I'm here.
Mayor Greenbaum: I don't necessarily believe that it is to the Administration so much as if it is an In Rem foreclosure, it probably went through Mr. Dorsey's office. I don't know at this point what the fees are, what the property is. I certainly would take a look at it on behalf of any particular resident to see where we stand and why. With the foreclosures it is whatever is due. Fred, do you have anything to add?
Mr. Semrau: Yes, you know what I think I could do, I would certainly meet with Mr. Cali right after the meeting and just get the information and try to follow up.
President Roman: Thank you.
Mayor Greenbaum: Thank you and then if you would be so kind to report back to Sean as to what the resolution is ultimately so that we can make sure that we resolve this issue one way or another.
Mr. Semrau: Yes.
Mayor Greenbaum: Thank you.
President Roman: Thank you very much.
Mr. Walsh: Thank you for coming.
President Roman: Mr. Ireland.
Scott Ireland, 6 Eric Ct.: I'm just, I think I need to comment or ask a question about Mr. Walsh's opining on taxes. I'd like to know, maybe a straw poll of the Council, do they agree that Governor Christie shouldn't be lowering income taxes?
President Roman: If I may be so bold, I agree with the Governor…but…
Mr. Walsh: Well hold on, let me correct you. I think if he is going to lower taxes, he should lower property taxes. You just made the huge political, what's the word, trick where you said Patrick doesn't want to lower income taxes as if you are saying I don't want to lower taxes. I want to lower property taxes and if he is going to lower taxes, he should lower the property tax. Maybe that's not…
Mr. Ireland: That's not how it came out.
Mr. Walsh: I'm being a little cynical, I apologize because I know. Thank you, I'm sorry.
Mr. Ireland: So you support him in his effort to lower income taxes.
Mr. Walsh: No, to lower property taxes. In other words, if he is going to lower taxes, lower the property tax.
Mr. Ireland: So you are against lowering the income tax.
Mr. Walsh: That's a lie.
Mr. Ireland: I'm confused then, clearly
Mr. Walsh: No, you are confusing the public with rhetoric.
Mr. Ireland: No, I'm trying to clarify your position.
Mr. Walsh: Okay, if he is going to lower taxes, he should lower the middle class's taxes before lowering the wealthy peoples' taxes. He's already lowered the wealthy peoples' taxes. He now wants to lower their taxes again. Last I checked our property taxes have continued to go up and up and up for the middle class. That's my point that I'm making. I just want to make sure you understand where I'm coming from.
Mr. Ireland: I wholeheartedly agree; property taxes are too high and I'm appreciative that there's at least a 2% cap on it. I'm still confused. He has come out in favor of a reduction in income taxes.
Mr. Walsh: That's correct.
Mr. Ireland: And you are supportive or opposed to that?
Mr. Walsh: I just told you. I wish he would lower property tax instead of lowering the income tax.
Mr. Ireland: Can ask, can I get, are you in support of or opposed to lowering income taxes?
Mr. Walsh: I disagree. See you are trying to trick me.
Mr. Ireland: No, it's a pretty straight forward question.
Mr. Walsh: No, no it isn't. It's a trick. Scott, you are coming up here trying to trick the public, trick me by saying that Patrick Walsh doesn't want to lower taxes. It's been done a million times to a million different people. You are doing the same thing over again. I want taxes lowered and before you lower any other tax, you are lowering property taxes otherwise you are going to get resistance from me. Period. That answers your question.
Mr. Ireland: Not…
President Roman: Mr. Ireland…
Mr. Walsh: Yes it does.
President Roman: As much as I can find this subject extremely entertaining…
Mr. Ireland: Yeah, it is, isn't it.
President Roman: And it is something that I engage in, profusely in, this does not appear to be the forum in order to discuss that. Your question has been answered.
Mr. Ireland: I take exception because it was his opinion that was expressed earlier seemingly opposed to an income tax reduction.
President Roman: Well, I believe your question has been asked and somewhat answered.
Mr. Ireland: Would you agree that he answered it?
President Roman: I can agree to answer your question which is, yes I am in favor of lowering income taxes. I'm in favor of lowering all the taxes.
Mr. Ireland: Okay.
Mayor Greenbaum: I believe that Mr. Walsh's answer was that he is in favor of lowering all taxes as well.
Mr. Walsh: Yes.
Mayor Greenbaum: So he is in favor of reduction of income taxes…
Mr. Walsh: You are right Scott. I am in favor of lowering income taxes but property taxes first.
Mr. Ireland: You are in favor of lowering income taxes, excellent. Thank you.
Mr. Walsh: But you see, you are going to switch the story. I can see it already. First property taxes, then you can lower income. Don't lower income before you lower property. Period.
President Roman: Does anyone else from the public wish to be heard?
Mr. Walsh: You are playing tricks.
President Roman: Seeing none, we are on to Council Comments. Mr. Mayor, any closing comments.
Mayor Greenbaum: I would just like to thank the employees. In the first month that I've been here I've seen an incredible effort on behalf of all of the employees in the building to really accomplish a lot in a very short period of time.
President Roman: You must be doing a good job. I've not seen your tires slashed or your car keyed yet.
Mayor Greenbaum: That's because I'm driving my wife's car here. You know, you can see that we've painted, started painting the building getting rid of this ridiculously pink color. Some people don't like the color that we are painting but I think the vast majority of people have indicated that it's a subtle but welcome change.
President Roman: If I may interject on that, having walked in the Town Hall I instantly noticed the color and it is not as was described to me. So I do like it.
Mrs. Labow: Baby poop?
President Roman: Yes. That's how it has been described. I like it.
Mayor Greenbaum: Yes, there is one individual in the building who has been vocal and we won't name that person but she certainly has been vocal and sits in the Clerk's office. I won't force her to paint her office.
Mrs. Lashway: I already raised my hand. I acknowledge it is me.
Mayor Greenbaum: Everybody's entitled to their own opinion.
Mrs. Lashway: I'm the only one who doesn't like it too.
President Roman: Mr. Ferrante.
Mr. Ferrante: Nothing.
President Roman: Mr. Nicastro.
Mr. Nicastro: I just wanted to say thank you. The first month of Council was interesting and learning. I want to thank everyone who helped. Lisa has been a great help, Sean has been a help and everyone, wherever I ask anyone I get back the answers. Personally I would just like to thank everyone. I sent an email but thank you Mayor and Council for their donation on my father's behalf to Deborah that they made last month. Thank you.
President Roman: Joe, if I may add to that. You are obviously doing much better than I did in the first month of your tenure because by this time I have made at least ten errors and possibly two misdemeanors. Mr. Walsh.
Mr. Walsh: Yes, I want to thank Mr. Ireland for bringing up that question and I do want for the record, I enjoyed the conversation believe it or not and I welcome any debate by anybody anywhere on taxes. I would love it. I think you would benefit. I think I would benefit and I think the public would benefit from a debate from me with anyone about property versus income taxes. Please set one up, blog, I don't care where, I'll be there. Thank you.
President Roman: Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: Is the Mount Olive Viewpoints coming back tonight? I just want to also say that this first month of Mayor Greenbaum's new term with Mr. Canning has just been absolutely remarkable and fascinating and refreshing and I also want to say that Saturday night I was at the, as many of us were, Flanders Fire and Rescue's installation dinner and I had a wonderful experience. Several of the people who are there are also employees and two of them actually came up to me and said I just have to tell you, it's the first time in years that I actually could say I love my job. They said, it's just been phenomenal, the energy, the enthusiasm and everything else that's going on and that was just really wonderful to hear and I wanted to thank Mayor Greenbaum and Mr. Canning for making all of that happen and possible and I look forward to a great February.
President Roman: And I have nothing to add. Can I get a motion to adjourn?
Motion made and seconded. All in favor, none opposed, the meeting was adjourned at 8:31 pm.
Alex Roman, Council President
I, Michelle Masser, Deputy Township Clerk of the Township of Mount Olive do hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes are a true and correct copy of the Minutes approved at a legally convened meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council duly held on February 14, 2012.
Michelle Masser, Deputy Township Clerk