Mount Olive Township Council Minutes
December 19, 2000

Council Minutes, December 19, 2000

The Regular meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council was called to Order at 7:30 pm by Council Vice President Rattner with the Pledge of Allegiance.

According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate Notice of this meeting has been given to the Mount Olive Chronicle and the Morristown Daily Record. Notice has been posted at the entrance of the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mt. Olive, New Jersey, and notices were sent to those requesting the same.

ROLL CALL: Present: Mr. Heymann, Mr. Guenther (7:32pm), Mr. Scapicchio, Mrs. Kelly, Mr. Spino, Mr. Rattner, President Sohl (8:12pm)

Vice President Rattner: I expect Mr. Sohl will be here shortly, and I believe Mr. Guenther had a previous meeting and will be here as soon as possible. I would also like to acknowledge the attendance of the Mayor, Paul Licitra; the Business Administrator, Sandy Kaplan; the Township Attorney, John Dorsey; Township Clerk, Lisa Lashway; and DPW, Bob Casey.

ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS : NONE

LEGAL REPORTS

Mr. Dorsey: The only thing I can report to you–unfortunately, we have not had a response from Inverse Enterprises on our proposal. That’s not what I hoped would happen, but that’s were we stand.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS:

November 28, 2000 Present: Mr. Heymann, Mr. Guenther, Mr. Scapicchio, Mr. Spino, President Sohl

Absent: Mr. Rattner, Mrs. Kelly

December 5, 2000 Present: Mr. Heymann, Mr. Scapicchio, Mrs. Kelly, Mr. Spino, Mr. Rattner

Absent: Mr. Guenther, Mr. Sohl

Mr. Spino moved for approval of the Minutes and Mr. Scapicchio seconded the Motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed by the majority

Exceptions Mrs. Kelly and Mr. Rattner ABSTAINED on 11/28/00 Minutes.

CORRESPONDENCE

Letters From Residents

1. Letter received December 8, 2000, from Mr. & Mrs. Malinowski regarding the construction of the Library.

School Correspondence

Resolutions, Ordinances, Correspondence from other Towns

2. Two Resolutions received December 4, 2000, from the Borough of Netcong regarding Public Utility Proposed Rate Hikes and Mining Industry Legislation.

3. Resolution received December 4, 2000, from the Borough of Netcong regarding a Resolution urging the NJ Legislature to adopt a permanent Funding Source to remediate the loss of property tax revenue due to Bell Atlantic Depreciation Schedule.

4. Resolution received December 11, 2000, from the Borough of Chatham regarding Assembly Bill A-126.

League of Municipalities

5. Letter received December 4, 2000, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding the Ninth Annual Mayor’s Legislative Day.

6. Letter received December 4, 2000, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding the 2001 Fiscal Update League Seminar.

7. Letter received December 6, 2000, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding S-1903 Introduced to Phase - In Cost of WHS Realty Decision.

8. Letter received December 6, 2000, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding the 85th Annual Conference.

9. Legislative Viewpoint received December 6, 2000, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding Legislative/Policy Updates.

DOT/DEP/Permits/LOIs

10. Letter received December 5, 2000, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding a Letter of Interpretation for Childrens World Learning Center Block 8400; Lot 2 (4 Naughright Road)

11. Letter received December 6, 2000, from NJ Transit regarding the proposed Hoboken terminal and Rail Yard Rehabilitation Project.

12. Permit received December 6, 2000, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding the New Jersey Foreign Trade Zone Venture and AIG Baker.

13. Letter received December 15, 2000, from the State of New Jersey, Department of Environmental Protection regarding an Application for EZ Storage (50, US Route 46).

Correspondence from Organizations/Committees/Boards

14. Letter received December 6, 2000, from the Bergen Municipal Employee Benefit From regarding 2001 Budget.

15. Minutes of the November 1st meeting of the Musconetcong Sewerage Authority received December 8, 2000.

16. Budget received December 15, 2000, from Musconetcong Sewerage Authority for the year 2001.

17. Letter received December 15, 2000. from the State of New Jersey, Department of Community Affairs regarding Ethics Code Inquiry.

Correspondence Regarding Tort Claims/Verified Notice of Lien Claim/Petitions

Land Use/Development Matters

COAH

Correspondence from Cable Networks/Utilities

18. Letter received December 4, 2000, from Comcast regarding informational update.

Correspondence from Legislative Representatives

Notices

19. Letter received December 6, 2000, from the Department of Community Affairs regarding Notice of Public Hearing.

Vice President Rattner stated that we had received 19 items of correspondence and asked Council if there were any comments on same.

ORDINANCES FOR PUBLIC HEARING

Ord. #48-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive Amending and Supplementing Section 400-46 Entitled “Fire Lanes” of the Code of the Township of Mount Olive. (Parkade Shopping Center)

Vice President Rattner opened the Public Hearing on Ord. #48-2000

Vice President Rattner closed the Public Hearing on Ord. #48-2000

Mr. Heymann moved for Adoption and Final Passage on Ord. #48-2000 and Mr. Scapicchio seconded the motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously

Vice President Rattner declared Ord. #48-2000 as Passed on Second Reading.

Ord. #49-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive, County of Morris, to Amend and Supplement Chapter 400 Entitled “Land Use” to Provide Regulations for Stream Corridor Buffers.

Vice President Rattner opened the Public Hearing on Ord. #49-2000

Vice President Rattner closed the Public Hearing on Ord. #49-2000

Mr. Spino moved for Adoption and Final Passage on Ord. #49-2000 and Mrs. Kelly seconded the motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously

Vice President Rattner declared Ord. #49-2000 as Passed on Second Reading.

Ord. #50-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive Establishing Fees or Rates for Off Duty Police Officers.

Vice President Rattner opened the Public Hearing on Ord. #50-2000

Mr. Bonte: These fees are for “Off Duty Police Officers.” Are these to provide services at–let’s say school functions, or on the highway like for construction?

Vice President Rattner: Yes.

Mr. Bonte: And those funds are payable to the Township?

Mr. Dorsey: Yes. The Township has to pay the individual police officers.

Mr. Bonte: And does the individual police officer receive these dollar amounts?

Mr. Dorsey: No, there is some Administrative charge added to their actual hourly salary.

Mr. Bonte: What about–you see many, many construction sites throughout the State–I guess it’s a State Law there has to be a patrolman there. I presume they’re all off-duty at these sites. And in almost every case that I see, there is also a police vehicle there with the engine running the entire time. Is the cost of that vehicle in terms of the number of hours it is there, and the fuel, depreciation, etc., factored into–or is there a separate fee for if a police vehicle is provided at these sites?

Vice President Rattner: Mr. Kaplan?

Mr. Kaplan: To the best of my knowledge, there is no separate fee for a police vehicle. I believe it’s all factored in to the Administrative cost.

Mr. Scapicchio: It was represented to us, Mr. Bonte, through the Administration that all costs associated with that police officer–including hourly salary, health benefits, all taxes associated with that salary, the vehicle, and Administrative costs are included in that total hourly charge charged out for that particular officer.

Mr. Bonte: Okay. Because when I look at some of these numbers “Patrolman Level One” and “Level Two” the hourly rates are fairly low. It doesn’t seem fathomable to me that the cost of that vehicle–because basically we have “x” number of vehicles–and I’m sure this is in every Town–we have one or two vehicles every year that are basically being tied up at all these construction sites. And I don’t know what the life of the vehicle is, but, that means taxpayers are providing these vehicles that aren’t being used for other services.

Vice President Rattner: Mr. Bonte, I understand what you’re saying Right now, we’re increasing the rate and I don’t want to slow that down. But, I’ll ask Administration when we go over the Budget, that we get this information.

Mr. Bonte: Take a good hard look at this.

Vice President Rattner: The comment is well taken. It’s a Budget item so we’ll take a look at it closer at that time.

Vice President Rattner closed the Public Hearing on Ord. #50-2000

Mr. Guenther moved for Adoption and Final Passage on Ord. #50-2000 and Mr. Heymann seconded the motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously

Vice President Rattner declared Ord. #50-2000 as Passed on Second Reading.

Ord. #51-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive Establishing a 25 mph Zone on a Portion of Wolfe Road Between its Intersection at Kings Arrow Road to its Intersection with Flanders Drakestown Road.

Vice President Rattner opened the Public Hearing on Ord. #51-2000

Vice President Rattner closed the Public Hearing on Ord. #51-2000

Mr. Scapicchio moved for Adoption and Final Passage on Ord. #51-2000 and Mr. Heymann seconded the motion.

Mr. Guenther: Exactly where is Kings Arrow Road?

Vice President Rattner: It goes in to the Apartments.

Mr. Dorsey: This actually establishes a school zone. In other words, when school is in, and children are out, the speed limit is 25mph.

Mr. Guenther: I don’t think this–I think there should be a sign up “when children are present” or have yellow lights flashing for a school zone.

Mr. Dorsey: You can direct signs to be put up.

Mr. Guenther: I think it’s more logical to warn people that a school zone is coming up. And just to put a sign up 25mph when you’re going 40mph–I don’t think this is sufficient. There should be some warning.

Vice President Rattner: I think that may, again, be a Budget item because those signs you’re talking about are electronic timed signs, or controlled signs and that would be a little bit more expensive. I don’t think we have anything like that in front of our schools.

Mr. Guenther: But they’re not on main roads–this is a through road for a lot of traffic in the morning, especially during the time that the children are going to school.

Mr. Scapicchio: I agree with Bernie–there’s a lot more traffic on this road than where any of our other schools are. We should give it serious consideration. Get the Police Department to give their input.

Vice President Rattner: We’ll ask the Administrator to do that, and also, get the price on this type of signage.

ROLL CALL: Passed by the majority. Exception: Mr. Guenther voted NO

Vice President Rattner declared Ord. #51-2000 as Passed on Second Reading.

ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING (January 9, 2001 Public Hearing Date)

Ord. #52-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive Entitled Trees.

Mr. Spino: I would like to remove this–if we’re going to have something else in its place, why bother?

Vice President Rattner: At our last meeting, when it was asked to be put on and we got the draft, each one of us had a certain amount of questions we wanted the Planning Department to answer. We haven’t heard anything from the Planning Department yet. I did get a sample Ordinance from some of the Towns that are within the Great Swamp area–I’ll pass this out for everyone to look over and we can put this on for a workshop discussion in January.

CONSENT RESOLUTIONS AGENDA:

Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are considered to be routine and non-controversial by the Township Council and will be approved by one motion (one vote). There will be no separate discussion or debate on each of these resolutions except for the possibility of brief clarifying statements which may be offered. If one or more Council member requests, any individual resolution on the Consent Agenda may be removed from the Consent Agenda List and acted on separately.

Mr. Guenther: I would like to remove #11 and #12 off the Consent Agenda.

Mr. Scapicchio: I would like to remove #6.

Vice President Rattner: I would like to remove #14, and #7.

1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Establishing the Annual Reorganization Meeting for January 2, 2001.

2. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Release in Performance Guarantees submitted by Mt. Olive Parkade.

3. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Execution of a Developer’s Agreement Between the Township and Stanley Karczynski. (formerly Lisanti)

4. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Execution of a Developer’s Agreement Between the Township and Woodfield at Mt. Olive in Connection with Section IIC.

5. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Execution of a Developer’s Agreement Between the Township and K-Land No. 53, LLC (Oak Hill II).

8. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Opposing S940/A2371 on the Transfer of Mining and Quarry Operations to the Department of Labor.

9. Resolution to Cancel Sewer Assessment Principal Balance on Block 4400, Lot 51. (US Postal Service)

10. Resolution to Cancel Tax on Block 4400, Lot 51, Qual. C001. (LaGrotta/Dream team Entertainment)

13. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Release of the Cash Bond Posted by Natures view Associates, LLC for the Installation of Monuments.

15. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Endorsement of a Treatment Works Approval Permit Application for Rachel Manor Estates.

16. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Changing the Starting Time of the Special Meeting of December 28, 2000, to Commence at 4:00 p.m.

Mrs. Kelly moved for approval of the Consent Resolutions and Mr. Heymann seconded the motion.

Vice President Rattner: Is there anyone from the Public who would like to address any of the Consent Resolutions?

Mr. Roskoff: Can somebody explain #9?

Mr. Dorsey: It’s an odd-amount that was left when we finally squeezed the US Postal Service until they paid us their $25,000.

Mr. Bonte: Can somebody explain #10?

Mr. Dorsey: LaGrotta was a tenant of the US Postal Service. We chased them, got a Judgement against them and when we levied on the Judgement, they had transferred their business to something called the “Dream Team” and have now gone into liquidation. The bottomline is, the Township cannot collect that money, so it’s simply being canceled from its records.

ROLL CALL: Passed by the majority, Exception: Mr. Guenther voted NO

PUBLIC PORTION ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS

6. A Resolution Awarding Contracts for the Snowplowing Services.

Mr. Heymann moved for approval of the Resolution and Mr. Scapicchio seconded the motion.

Mr. Scapicchio: I just think we need to have clarified who inspected these vehicles and maybe have that language inserted in this Resolution given that one of the successful Bidders–the low Bidder is a relative of a Township Employee.

Mr. Dorsey: The caveat is that his work and his hours will not be certified by his father. It must be certified by some other member of the Administration. Okay, Sandy?

Mr. Kaplan: Yes.

Mr. Scapicchio: Sandy, who inspected that truck? It was your memo that brought my response.

Mr. Casey: The truck was inspected by Tim Quinn, who is a Foreman in the Road Department–Ray (Kimmerer) was on vacation.

Mr. Scapicchio: Okay. Thank you.

Vice President Rattner: Any other discussion?

ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously

7. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Acceptance of a Donation of Lands More Specifically Known as Block 4100, Lot 89 and Block 4100, Lot 11. (Follini)

Mrs. Kelly moved for approval of the Resolution and Mr. Spino seconded the motion.

Vice President Rattner: I had a specific question on there. We’re accepting this property subject to the environmental–the Step I Environmental–

Mr. Dorsey: Yes.

Vice President Rattner: However, it doesn’t say it has to pass. It says “subject to inspection.” Do we still have the choice not to accept it if it comes up negative?

Mr. Dorsey: Yes.

Vice President Rattner: Can we make that a little clearer?

Mr. Dorsey: “...subject to the Township which is satisfactory.”

Vice President Rattner: Do we have to amend it?

Mr. Dorsey: Move the Resolution as Amended to include the words after Paragraph #1, “which is satisfactory to the Township.” Which means if it comes up clean in Phase I, we accept the Title.

Vice President Rattner: Okay. Any other discussion?

ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously

Mr. Guenther: I have a question on both #11 and #12. Can we discuss these together?

Vice President Rattner: Sure.

11. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Execution of a Developer’s Agreement Between the Township and Kennybrook Homes, Inc. (amended)

12. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing the Issuance of An Easement from the Township to Kennybrook Homes, Inc. to Attach to Lot 2, Block 2913. (amended)

Mr. Guenther moved for approval of Resolutions #11 and #12 and Mr. Scapicchio seconded the motion.

Mr. Guenther: I’m confused about the easement. What are we giving them a deed for? To walk across what property.

Mr. Dorsey: This is the one in which the developer came in, made the request that he be permitted to build a portion of his driveway in what was the right-of-way of an existing street–I believe it is First Avenue. The Agreement was that it was acceptable. We had to make some allowance for the piling of snow or something at the end of the driveway. So, he gets a Developer’s Agreement which provides for the work to be done for the piling of the snow and he then is granted an easement for the driveway across part of First Street.

Mr. Spino: I still have questions--I had asked for a map or a plan showing what this will look like–my original idea, what I was in favor of, was having them extend the street a bit–put their driveway back further so they would have a place to plow the snow. I’m not sure now--I don’t know where they’re going to plow the snow.

Mr. Casey: There was a map attached to the first report–about a month ago. If you’re familiar with the site, the road goes off, it ends at the woods, there’s a driveway there. You go off the end of the road–like “eleven o’clock” he’s going to remove a part of that back, put a wall there, and we will basically be putting snow on that property.

Vice President Rattner: Any other discussion?

ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously

14. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive.(LOSAP)*

Vice President Rattner: I asked to put this on non-consent. I know the Referendum–and we have to get it on before the end of the year–and there’s only one State-approved company to provide this service. However, the documentation we got doesn’t say anything about costs or anything else. It just says they’re going to be doing it. Do we have a regular contract? Is it going to cost us anything? Or is it just funded by the amount of money we’re putting in it?

Mr. Kaplan: There is no cost.

Vice President Rattner: Okay. And, again, we have the documentation here that says this is the only company that’s been approved. And this is a one-year contract, so we could change it.

Mr. Kaplan: Yes.

Vice President Rattner: Okay. Thank you. Is there anyone from the Public who would like to address this Resolution? Okay. Anyone else, Council? Okay.

Motion to approve the Resolution made and seconded.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously

Vice President Rattner: Let the Record show that Mr. Sohl is now present, at 8:12pm.

President Sohl: Thank you, Steve. I just got off a four-hour conference call. It was only supposed to be 35 - 50 minutes.

MOTIONS

1. Bill List. ATTACHED

Mr. Rattner moved for approval of the Bills and Mr. Scapicchio seconded the Motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously

2. Approval of Peddler’s Permit for John Woodburn for Mobile Food Vending for the years 2000 and 2001.

Mr. Guenther moved for approval of the Motion and Mr. Scapicchio seconded the Motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously

COUNCIL REPORTS

Mr. Rattner: I just want to mention–I gave everybody a copy of a newspaper article today. Senator Singer, the prime sponsor of the so-called Quarry Bill has withdrawn it. There was a vote in the State Senate yesterday, 11 in favor, 20 against. In order for it to fail, it had to have 21 votes. However, he was retracting the Bill and he said he wouldn’t submit it again unless he was assured of passage. So, it looked like it was 2 - 1 against it.

President Sohl: For all practical purposes–although we have a very brief business meeting scheduled for next week to wrap up some loose financial ends. This is the last major meeting we’re having as a Public Meeting, and my last meeting as Council President. I would just like to thank my peers on the Council. Obviously the Administration, the Mayor. This has been a fabulous year in my book. Having lived through, and I won’t dwell on it–certain situations in the past. We’ll never always agree on everything. As long as we can agree to disagree–and I’ve seen that happen during the course of this year, we can take that stance. Where we’ve had disagreements, we can make them, state them, move on. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. That’s the way it goes. But, what I don’t see happening now–and this is a positive–is, the acrimonious background of noise, discontent, etc. It’s a pleasure to walk into this Town Hall, be greeted by the various members of the staff, and, again, I think we’ve made absolutely tremendous progress in terms of knowing now who the real audience and customer is of this Body, and that is the Public, and that’s what we’re here to serve. So, it’s been a great year. Thanks, Paul, thanks, peers.

Mayor Licitra: Thank you.

PUBLIC PORTION

President Sohl: I now open the meeting to the Public. Is there anyone who would like to address the Council on any matter?

Mr. Bonte: I have a couple of items. The street Ordinance–that goes into effect in 21 days–

Mr. Dorsey: After the final publication.

Mr. Bonte: Does that Ordinance apply to any new developments within this Township, including those that may be under consideration by the Planning Board?

Mr. Dorsey: It obviously will apply to any new application.

Mr. Spino: Any application that’s in front of the Board that has not been approved yet?

Mr. Dorsey: It depends on how far along it’s gone. If it’s gone through a Public Hearing, probably not. But, any new application–the Planning Board will have to rule on what’s applicable, and what’s not applicable.

Mr. Bonte: About two months ago, I addressed the Council, I sent you all a letter regarding some thoughts I had on the leasing of lands to hunters regarding property boundaries. At that time, the Council said that they would put it on the Agenda for discussion at a workshop. I was wondering if you had any plans to do that?

President Sohl: I only have one meeting left. I would like to see it discussed. Perhaps the incoming President could work that out.

Mr. Bonte: Okay. Finally, I would just like to make a couple of comments on Mr. Kaplan. This Township has made a wonderful choice in the selection of Mr. Kaplan as a Business Administrator. I have found him at these meetings to be, not only very intelligent, but very well versed in Municipal Affairs, and he does it with a very calm way of giving us the information that we need to know without opinions or emotions. And I just want the Mayor, the Council, and Mr. Kaplan to know that I consider Mr. Kaplan an asset to this Community.

President Sohl: Thanks, Rich. And, as you point out, I think one of the factors that has made our job–those of us sitting up here so much easier is the fact that we have gotten a steady flow of information. We asked some questions, and they’re not viewed as being antagonistic, they’re accepted as honest questions that need answers before we can make a decision. We don’t have the difficulty that we had before. So, it’s positive all around. Is there anyone else.

Mr. Stephen Linskey, 22 Ramar Street: I represent four families that live over on Ramar Street. Our properties abut to a property owned by Mr. Williams that we’ve been having problems with. What we consider violations of Zoning with respect to commercial vehicles being parked on that property. Essentially, about two and a half years ago, Mr. Williams parked three tractor trailers in the middle of the field, which, our understanding, it was supposed to be a farm. We have gone through notifications to the Township, but we have never come before the Council, and we would like to do that now. Essentially–I had a couple of conversations with Mr. Rattner, and probably a lot of you are more familiar with Mr. Williams than I am. But, we just want to make sure that everyone is aware of our concern with the property and the fact that we’re not happy with tractor trailers being parked there. It creates an eye-sore and we would like to move as quickly as we can.

Mayor Licitra: We’re aware of the situation. Mr. Scapicchio has been working with them–I think what we’re doing right now, we’re trying to work with Mr. Williams, who is difficult to work with at times. But everyone here is aware of this.

Mr. Linskey: Actually, that’s one of the reasons why we’re here–to make sure communications go more smoothly. Copies of correspondence that has gone back and forth.

Mayor Licitra: What I’ll do, if I get that, I’ll get in touch with Dominic.

Mr. Linskey: I’ve talked to the Zoning Officer, and he’s given me a verbal of what’s going on. This has been going on for about a year and a half. We’re just getting frustrated at having to look at tractor trailers in the back yard, that shouldn’t be there in the first place.

Mayor Licitra: What I’m told, there’s really not something we can do–he’s within his rights to put the tractor trailers there–we’re trying to work out something with him and that’s where the stalemate is. We will keep you informed.

Mr. Linskey: Thank you.

President Sohl: Thank you. Is there anyone else who would like to address the Council?

Mr. Steve Kish, Flanders: Just some random thoughts to end the year for what I hope are some suggestions to improve the quality of life in Town.

Mr. Spino: Random Acts of Kindness, maybe?

Mr. Kish: That’s always a good thing to do–unless you’re on Route 206, that’s impossible to do. Which will start off my random thoughts. I’d like to see a traffic study done on Route 206 in the area of the Cloverhill Development, leading to possibly banning left-turns into the Dunkin Donuts Parking Lot. I can see you’re familiar with the situation?

Mr. Guenther: I’ve brought that up before.

Mr. Kish: Okay, well let me bring it up again. There seems to be a lot accident potential, and I think there have been a number of accidents there, where people are signaling left, people want to go a little further, and pass them on the right, then proceed a little further and snap on the left-hand signal to turn in to Deerfield., and then people who are passing the Dunkin Donut people don’t expect to have to stop so quickly for a street. Left-turns are banned further north from turning into the shopping center itself, and I see a ban into the Dunkin Donuts a logical extension of this and making for safer transit patterns. Regarding signage–I find it interesting, the discussion about the 25mph school area. Usually, those signs read “when children are present.” Anybody driving by has no idea if children are present or not because on any given day, school could not be in session, and even if it is, they are conceivably not present to view. That type of sign is very ambagious.

Mr. Guenther: That is why I said the “flashing” yellow sign.

Mr. Kish: I totally concur with that. Signs in general–I would like to see a Property Maintenance Officer in Town. Someone to walk around the Township, as I frequently do, and just look at the plethora of signs we have that are cluttering up the environment. Such as “Children at Play” “Slow, Children at Play” Children should be seen and not heard, “School Zone” “Drug Free School Zone” “Police Directing Traffic Ahead” which is not a case, except once a year when the church has a carnival in the shopping center parking lot. The area on Route 206, and many areas of the Township themselves are becoming dumps, I think, for signs. They do nothing to prevent people from speeding, i.e. “Children at Play” that’s like the yellow sign in a car saying “Baby on Board.” Just because that baby’s on board, if you’re going to hit that car, you’re going to hit that car. People don’t aim at these things, they happen. I’d like to see these signs cleaned up. The Tree Ordinance tonight was interesting, because possibly bringing back the Shade Tree Commission. It’s definitely something we need in this Township because part of the problems we have in Town with trees is the fact that they’re the wrong type of trees. They don’t grow in the limited topsoil that developer leave after they’ve raped the land. They fall down, they lift up sidewalks. All sorts of damage, and they should not be planted in the first place. If we had a Shade Tree Commission using some logic as to what type of trees would grow best in which environment, it would save property owners a lot of hassle by not having to replace sidewalks and trees in a very short period of time because they’re not growing.

President Sohl: anyone else? All right, I will close the meeting to the Public. We will Adjourn our Public Meeting and go directly into our Workshop discussions for this evening.

Motion made for adjournment. All in Favor, None Opposed. The Meeting was adjourned at 8:50pm.

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Steven W. Rattner

Council President

I, LISA M. LASHWAY, Township Clerk of the Township of Mount Olive do hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes is a true and correct copy of the Minutes approved at a legally convened meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council duly held on January 23, 2001.

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LISA M. LASHWAY

Mount Olive Township Clerk

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